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New official pics from Quattroruote

Some are new. Some are crops of others...
Alfa Romeo 4C Le nuove foto ufficiali - Gallery - Quattroruote
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Looks good, but the revised positioning of the wing mirrors seems bizarre and I'm not sure about the reflector on the front bumper wheel arch. It looks like a stick-on after thought from Halfords !!!
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Alfa Romeo 4C Le nuove foto ufficiali - Gallery - Quattroruote
It's nice to see some carbon details in the door sills inside the cockpit.... however, the cheap and nasty matt plastic headlight covers remain. Say what you will, those headlight surrounds in these pictures are definitely NOT carbon. The same goes for rear diffuser. Nasty cheap plastic. Oh dear oh dear
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The interior has changed a lot from the concept, thats for sure.
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it is really tiny.
the engine bay looks tidy
like the little mesh rear engine vents
inside looks 'focused'
will want to see what options for the headlight pods exist
need to see it in launch model colours
rear diffuser might just stand inspection - will give benefit of doubt
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Hahaha, it's got fiat 500 automatic controls
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Never seen people look for faults as much as they do with Alfa's... Especially with this car.

If it saves costs to use Abarth/FIAT/Alfa parts in the 4C why not?

The steering wheel is Abarth... The automatic controls.. FIAT/Abarth, the toggle switches Giulietta, the rear lights MiTo..

I dont mind it one bit.. As long as it looks good and goes like hell I will be MORE than happy...
 
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As long as your happy forking out for a parts bin special all is good
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As long as your happy forking out for a parts bin special all is good
So who's parts bin did they pull the carbon fibre chassis from?
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The headlights are just rivolting. Cheap nasty. Cant look past them even if the rest of it looks great. What were they thinking
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The headlights are just rivolting. Cheap nasty. Cant look past them even if the rest of it looks great. What were they thinking
Headlights on a car are like eyes on a person. One of the most prominent features and the ones you will look at almost immediately when you meet someone or see a new car. You are just not going to fall for a girl with ugly eyes any more than a car with ugly headlights.. No matter how gorgeous the "chassis" might be...
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I like the lights. A lot. Look like insect eyes.
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Never seen people look for faults as much as they do with Alfa's... Especially with this car.

If it saves costs to use Abarth/FIAT/Alfa parts in the 4C why not?

The steering wheel is Abarth... The automatic controls.. FIAT/Abarth, the toggle switches Giulietta, the rear lights MiTo..
The problem is that Alfa is using the parts bin methodology the wrong way around and the results are cheap and nasty. I don't think anyone here would complain if the 4C had switchgear from a Maserati, gearbox buttons from a Ferrari, heater knobs from an 8C, etc. Why is it always the lowest common denominator that they have to go for? And you can't complain about the cost of moulds and tooling if you use already existing parts from Maserati and Ferrari.

Failing that, another option would have been developing some bespoke switchgear for the 4C and then using it again in the Giulia and perhaps the 169 for volume and recovering costs.

Instead they've taken the easy way out as so often seems to be the case with Alfas of late....
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The GT had a 156SW floorpan , 147 interior and 147Gta front etc and its not a recent Alfa?
Ferrari and Lamborghini used Fiat parts extensively . TVR did some interior knobs using lathes to
dissapoint the parts bin spotters.
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All will be forgiven if it goes like stink, handles like dream and sounds like a proper Alfa should! But it's a big IF......
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One other thing, where is the front numberplate going? To the side works if there is a nice flat bumper strip like on brera/159 etc. Hasnt got that, so is it going to cover one side of rad grill??
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So who's parts bin did they pull the carbon fibre chassis from?
I have not seen a definitive answer to who is designing / manufacturing the carbon tub -did I miss this?
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I have not seen a definitive answer to who is designing / manufacturing the carbon tub -did I miss this?
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The carbon tub is manufactured in a new factory in the Campania region, owned by TTA (Tecno Tessile Airola), which is a joint venture between Adler Plastic (long-time FGA supplier) and LMC (Lavorazione Materiali Compositi), a composites specialist.
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Headlights have to go... i'm not buying one until they sort that out.
Hopefully they're only on the signature edition

Love everything else, but they spoil the car for me.
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Agree - those headlights are disgusting. Truly hideous. What on earth where they thinking!!!! Not mad keen on the cheap-looking dash, either, but it's the headlights that really ruin it.
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if the launch / signature edition is pearl white, what will the black lights look like?
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It says "An investment of € 15 million to produce carbon fiber chassis for the new Alfa Romeo 4C. And 'the project that will save the industrial area of ​​Benfil Airola. Signed yesterday morning the provisional allotment of the project, preliminary act for the conclusion of a real program contract, near the town in the province of Benevento. The project is promoted by Paul Squires, owner of Adler Group, a world leader in the production of automotive components, and Michele Ferrante, a number of Mlc, a company active in the aerospace sector.
Details of the plan provide that the investment is paid entirely by the private sector, without a single euro public. The new company will be called at the beginning and take Tta 160 workers. In the first eight months of operation the number of assumptions will increase to 220. The new business is the objective of a high-tech production: the frames of carbon fiber, in fact, will be mounted on the new sporty Alfa Romeo 4C, which will replace the Alfa Spider.
The new car will not be ready until the second half of 2013 and will have a retail price of about € 40 000. The Tta sign a contract for fifteen years for the rent of the great disused factory to Airola. In exchange, the city will collect an annual rent for Sunni 314mila euro for five years."


So the Adler investment of 15million euros equates to 1500 euros per 4C tub if they supply , say, ten thousand . That's before materials , labour etc
If you allow this level of investment for all the parts such as lamps you start to see why they must keep up the "parts bin" search.
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Never seen people look for faults as much as they do with Alfa's... Especially with this car.

If it saves costs to use Abarth/FIAT/Alfa parts in the 4C why not?

The steering wheel is Abarth... The automatic controls.. FIAT/Abarth, the toggle switches Giulietta, the rear lights MiTo..

I dont mind it one bit.. As long as it looks good and goes like hell I will be MORE than happy...




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So the Adler investment of 15million euros equates to 1500 euros per 4C tub if they supply , say, ten thousand . That's before materials , labour etc
If you allow this level of investment for all the parts such as lamps you start to see why they must keep up the "parts bin" search.
Thanks for the information. Interesting step up for Adler group who will be on a steep learning curve from making car interiors to composite bodies. Obviously they have a good working relationship with FIAT group.

Would it also be likely that they have put together the interior of the vehicle - they seem to supply even for Ferrari?

Reading the article it seems that the factory is being set up just to supply the bodies for the Alfa Romeo 4C, which is surprising for such a small volume vehicle. Maybe looking to their future and becoming a generic supplier of bodies for sports cars?
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