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Should prostitution be legal in certain controlled areas?

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Should prostitution be legalised?

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#1 ·
Should prostitution and brothels be legalised in certain controlled areas, such as in certain states in the USA?
 
#45 ·
Hi jamieboy,
I have found it really difficult to find a figure for this - simply, no-one knows just how many, as there's there's no way of monitoring how many have actually been administered vs. the number of vaccines that have been distributed.

Since vaccination requires three seperate shots, the number of vaccines distributed can't really provide an estimate. The only figure I've found so far dates from May this year, where a paediatrics professor at Yale put an estimate at a very rough "tens of thousands". Please note that the other information on the site pre-dates Judicial Watch's FOI request, but the info here should be pretty much in line with the statistics from Judicial Watch's May 15th request (albeit that the FDA failed to produce all relevant data up to that point).
 
#46 ·
I have found it really difficult to find a figure for this - simply, no-one knows just how many
That's unfortunate then - 347 out of a thousand is a very different stat to 347 out of ten thousand, different again to 347 out of a million. I'm always very suspicious of the motives of people (by which I don't mean you, I mean the organisations you are quoting) who provide a headline-grabbing figure which, after scrutiny, is virtually meaningless.

Anyway, it's perhaps best left as an aside to the main topic of the thread. :)
 
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#50 ·
Just as a bye the bye. If we are talking adverse reactions to vaccines, what attitude do anti HPV vaccine campaigners have to the women who subsequently die of cancer for lack of the vaccine...big silence I expect. I suspect those dying of cancer would willingly have taken the risk had it been available to them.

To prostitution being legalised? Yep..certainly..provided you can build a regulatory framework that provides legal and health protection to the women, and also undermine the stranglehold that organised crime currently has.

I take the view that 'Pro-Lifers' are really "Pro-Back street abortionists" wearing false beards. Similarly I take the view that those who cannot accept the regularisation of prostitution are by default in favour of murder, repression, violence forced addiction etc etc..which are the hallmarks of illegal prostitution in much of the world. We have got East European Girls here in Boston terrorised into selling themselves by violent agressive bullies who pay them nothing, then discard them wrecking their entire lives.

Some may find legalising these things distasteful or uncomfortable to think about, but they refuse to see what is going on now, preferring instead to promote some unachievable moral 'ideal', whilst in the real world the suffering continues until something is done to change it.

AlfaLincs
 
#51 ·
AlfaLincs,
with all due respect, women who make the choice of having sex with multiple partners are playing a lottery of their own choosing - some may be unfortunate enough to catch HPV-related cancer as a result, and it is therefore a lifestyle choice.

Kids as young as 9 generally have not made any such choice, yet are being (in some parts of the world, including Australia) forcibly vaccinated. It is a horribly unpleasant truth, but Gardasil can and does cause death, paralysis - and on top of all of the side-effects already mentioned, sterility - a side-effect that no-one will ever be able to accurately trace back to source until every 9 - year old & above is forcibly vaccinated, and potentially left barren as a result.

The statistics relating to legal prostitution and vaccination speak for themselves: check for yourself the relation between e.g. Australia (legal prostitution & soliciting), the state of Nevada (legal prostitution & soliciting) etc. etc. versus the rest of the world (in general, don't forcibly vaccinate). Don't take my word - look into this for yourselves.

The Gardasil vaccine contains, amongst other things:
Polysorbate 80 (which causes infertility in mice) and also
Sodium Borate (a common cockroach killer - and anyone who has lived outside of the UK likely knows how resistant cockroaches are to just about anything...).

How many of you, knowingly, would have yourselves injected with substances so potent as to be able to kill cockroaches, and render mice infertile? Anyone in the UK sticking their hand up to say you would, just PM me, & I'll make sure that you'll be enrolled in an official Gardasil trial / survey in your area. I bet there are few takers on this bet.

Make no mistake: legalising all forms of prostitution very rapidly leads to draconian implementation of (unneccesary) vaccination against (a minute subsample) of HPV. The vaccine frequently kills children before they have had the chance to live, experiment, and decide for themselves - people die of the "cure" rather than the disease.

Those who blithely say that "everyone should be free to make their own choices" may be in danger of conveniently ignoring the truth that "making one's own choice" can & does have catastrophic effects on others - which have been forced on them by the choices of well-meaning but ultimately ill-advised people.

I have not even mentioned the enormous problem of human trafficking spawned by the sex industry, but again, I would think this is an inconvenient truth which many would wish to ignore. However, anyone still saying (although I totally agree with the sentiment in theory) that "people should be free to do as they please" really should sit up & think.

Otherwise, your comments could easily be construed as "I should be able to do as I please, and the rest of humanity can go to hell".

If you really want freedom of choice, it does NOT mean forcing anything on other people as a consequence. I will again say, be careful of what you wish for, because you may get it - and have to live with it.
 
#53 ·
Kids as young as 9 generally have not made any such choice, yet are being (in some parts of the world, including Australia) forcibly vaccinated. It is a horribly unpleasant truth, but Gardasil can and does cause death, paralysis - and on top of all of the side-effects already mentioned, sterility - a side-effect that no-one will ever be able to accurately trace back to source until every 9 - year old & above is forcibly vaccinated, and potentially left barren as a result.
Alfachic, you seem to have a particularly strong view against this vaccination. Looking at the most recent link you posted, it says 2.1 million doses sent out, and three doses represents a course of vaccination, which gives us 700,000.

Assuming not all of them have been used, let's say 500,000 girls and women have been given it.

542 of these 500,000 reported side effects. The article states that:

The vast majority of these problems were minor. In addition to soreness at the injection site, the other most common complaints were fainting, dizziness, fever and nausea — all of which can be easily treated says CDC spokesperson Curtis Allen. They are “nothing to cause concern.”

But also reported were 3 cases of Guillain-Barre syndrome, a type of temporary paralysis that may last several weeks or months, and 3 cases of paralysis of the facial nerve. However, there is no indication that these conditions were caused by the vaccine itself
So if we take 542 reactions, and the vast majority were minor, we could say maybe 200 were non-minor. So we could make the figures look like 0.04% of people who got the drug had a non-minor reaction, which was likely not even related to the drug itself.

If I were being offered it, I'd make a judgement based on a 99.96% chance of no serious side-effects whatsoever.


I'm perhaps more interested in why you feel that legalising and controlling prostitution would cause an increase in human trafficking? I would have thought exactly the opposite would be the case?
 
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#56 ·
Alfachic says

"with all due respect, women who make the choice of having sex with multiple partners are playing a lottery of their own choosing - some may be unfortunate enough to catch HPV-related cancer as a result, and it is therefore a lifestyle choice."

That sounds perilously similar to the kind of "gays deserved AIDS type of sentiment" to me. To refer to catching HPV related cancer as a "lifestyle choice" is pretty low, and quite frankly not accurate as most of the women I knew of my generation hadn't the faintest idea about HPV..so choice didn't come into it..ditto chlamidia.

Precisely why do you think that a legalised regulated system could be worse than what happens now, or are you unaware of what happens now. I am incidentally not 'in favour' of prostitution. I just believe that getting it out from under the carpet is the better of two bad choices. It is at least more honest, and likely to give women better protection. Its not a 'lifestyle choice' for them..just in case you were wondering.

AlfaLincs
 
#58 ·
Yep, especially the "upper class" ones. I know a girl (friend of a friend) who makes £150 an hour or £800 for overnight as an escort, she has a degree and a good day time job and just does it for extra cash..

Its a proper lifestyle choice, although I accept its pretty much legal what she does, as she is only paid for her 'company'. Many proper prostitutes don't have any option but to tout for punters on the streets.. :(
 
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