At last the government realises that we can't afford to pay any more taxes

Hurrah - at last the penny has dropped. Taxpayers are at the limit of what they are willing to pay to fund public services, the Chancellor has said.

Taxpayer can bear no more, admits Alistair Darling - Times Online

if only the irish government would realize the same I'd be laughing

Oh my god. is that the first realistic and honest speech I have heard from the government?

In a way I find it good that we are admitting we are up the creek. that way we can prepare ourselves for whats to come.

On the other hand it does look like public spending is going to be cut. Its going to be interesting to see how that effects the soctiy we live in.

Stuart

I noticed Mr Darling (and that's a joke in itself)
said there would be more money for Hospitals

There has already been something called "Agenda For Change"
going on since about 2004


which has demoralised staff

Agenda and action (or 'delivery' as they like to call it these days ) are 2 very different things.

All I see is goalposts moving every year and more accountants and consultants (not the medical ones). Would my learned friend agree?

Actually I've just reread the passage. Do you think the labour government is just planning to loan out a massive amount for the next to years. so when the Tories get in (I think there is a very high chance of that) they are going to have to raise taxes and cut public spending. Then the Labour government are going to use this as ammunition against them in two elections time?

Stuart

ok ... I do think a labour government is better though than a Conservative one
despite the bull crap

Originally Posted by Quinn

ok ... I do think a labour government is better though than a Conservative one
despite the bull crap

Wow You can tell the difference between the two of them?

The government has said that no more money can be put towards health or education. I suppose it has to go towards bailing out the banks, paying ministers expenses, and funding two military adventures, where there are no clear objectives and no end plan.

Originally Posted by stu_the_flat

Wow You can tell the difference between the two of them?

I think it can be done in a few very sophisticated laboratories.....


....Government as lab rats - now THERE'S an idea I'd vote for.

Turn the tables on 'em. They've been experimenting on us for years.

Originally Posted by stu_the_flat

Wow You can tell the difference between the two of them?

it is not easy too see these days

Heres a few ideas for my own manifesto

Get rid of the quango's, all of them! No jobs for the boys Use that funding for proper services. I mean, POTATO COUNCIL? What are people thinking? These government bodies are a joke, who decides we need them?
No more ridiculous salaries for council bosses etc
Same goes for their pensions and golden handshakes. Everybody have private pensions. I try talking to my elderly neighbours who complain that they get poor pensions. They say that 'I've paid in, all my working life and this is all i get?' Well they need to try doing some basic maths. How can two or three quid a week paid in to the state scheme, with interest added, equate to a hundred quid a week in retirement?
No Sick pay.
No maternity pay.
I don't see why, being self employed, that i should pay somebody wages if they are poorly or decide to get pregnant. What has that got to do with me Ok, if its my fault that they have an injury but....
Police to be policemen and not revenue collectors.
Criminals-now it gets interesting Jails are too soft and full to capacity so lets ring fence all the quarries in the country. erect some timber frame accomodation blocks there, and have em all breaking and dressing stone for our troubled construction industry. If anybody mis behaves then nobody gets fed, that would soon stop any argy bargy, surprising how placid they'd get when hungry and thirsty. If they want to riot, let em get on with it, if they destroy their accomodation then the rain and snow will be pretty cold

Reckon i'm gonna run for MP

Originally Posted by stu_the_flat

Wow You can tell the difference between the two of them?

what he said!

A new govrnment just equals different idiots these days.

Originally Posted by strat24v

Heres a few ideas for my own manifesto

Get rid of the quango's, all of them! No jobs for the boys Use that funding for proper services. I mean, POTATO COUNCIL? What are people thinking? These government bodies are a joke, who decides we need them?
No more ridiculous salaries for council bosses etc
Same goes for their pensions and golden handshakes. Everybody have private pensions.
No Sick pay.
No maternity pay.
I don't see why, being self employed, that i should pay somebody wages if they are poorly or decide to get pregnant. What has that got to do with me Ok, if its my fault that they have an injury but....
Police to be policemen and not revenue collectors.
Criminals-now it gets interesting Jails are too soft and full to capacity so lets ring fence all the quarries in the country. erect some timber frame accomodation blocks there, and have em all breaking and dressing stone for our troubled construction industry. If anybody mis behaves then nobody gets fed, that would soon stop any argy bargy, surprising how placid they'd get when hungry and thirsty. If they want to riot, let em get on with it, if they destroy their accomodation then the rain and snow will be pretty cold

Reckon i'm gonna run for MP

I'd vote for you!

am sorry but I have to say this Bull****e

if you have something to say then say it

Originally Posted by Quinn

am sorry but I have to say this Bull****e

if you have something to say then say it

What are you saying Quinn? You lost me.

Originally Posted by Viking Dad

What are you saying Quinn? You lost me.

forget it

as far as I can see it's all bo****ks, everything they seem to do protects themselves, for eg, they vote themselves huge payrises (why can't we be balloted for the pay increases?), large expense accounts and manage all the dodges they can. Many are not fussed over the std of living or costs rising because they don't seem to actualy pay it themselves (we do out of tax) so if the petrol goes up then their expense bill increases.

They then say they can't do anything?

Then they turn around and put on hold this extra 2p, wow big deal, how about slashing the rate of tax charged or in fact using the money raised by road tax to fix the roads?

They're all the same, same book different cover.

I'd vote for strat to, everything is far too PC and human right applicable these days.

Originally Posted by Quinn

forget it

ok

I'm sure it was well meant.