Wow those Rangers fans know how to kick off...

if only the money spent on players was spent on trying to
get rid of hooligans The FA , to me, should look at that

most footy fans attend with no bother ... it's a pity that some fookwits screw it all up

Originally Posted by ACAPULCO AL

if you took a town of 170,000 people and counted the number of arrests for drunken/violent behaviour on any given saturday night i bet there'd be more than there was in manchester last night. just because they were football fans suddenly the media paint a picture of carnage and rampaging hooligans. 99.9 % of rangers fans were perfectly well behaved despite the fact the city council had woefully underestimated the number of travelling fans and couldn't even sort out a tv screen. the people involved in the violence are obviously f*cking idiots but it's grossly unfair to assume that all rangers fans are nutters

can you imagine the hoo-hah though if it was an english team involved, sepp blatter et al would be foaming at the mouth, demanding a ban on all english clubs from europe

With you there acapulco you old horn dog

Originally Posted by rayq81

The £25 Million the guys spent should help and the council should really invest in some larger bins

the problem with bins raymondo me old mucka is that since those lovely chaps in the IRA decided to blow the centre of Manchester up things like bins and other such hiding places for bombs were reduced to very few .. its a tough one ... huge responsibility has to be taken when organising a massive event such as this .. i remember coming out of the Muse concert with my good lady at the newly opened wembley stadium walking down a sort of concrete walled walkway that channelled us out of the place towards the tube to be met by a line of mounted police in helmets etc..talk about intimidating... there was of course absolutely no trouble, no drunks, no fights and yet here was a line of mounted police which we had to walk through ..now all you needed was a group of lads with a skin full to take offense at their over the top presence and things could so easily have got very nasty in that confined space with about eighty thousand people ... moving that many people around in any area needs careful planning and proper coordination...there is of course no excuse for attacking a policeman as the clowns who let the 90% of decent rangers fans down did ..eeehhh youth of today

Originally Posted by wobblyspoon

the problem with bins raymondo me old mucka is that since those lovely chaps in the IRA decided to blow the centre of Manchester up things like bins and other such hiding places for bombs were reduced to very few .. its a tough one ... huge responsibility has to be taken when organising a massive event such as this ..

You're quite right on that point Andy.

I sort of agree with Ray that some larger wheelie skips might have been strategically placed around the squares. Having said that, judging by the 100 tonnes of alcohol containers cleared by 10am next day alone the chances are they wouldn't have been enough or even used if they were more than 5 yards from a fan.

They are also perfectly right to complain about a lack of toilets. I mean, it really was selfish and inconsiderate not to build or rent at least 5000 mixed toilets, would we have needed more or less for 150,000 for the day? I'm not sure how much room we'd have needed for that many lavvies and, without doubt, the fans would have moaned about how much room they took up. They've had a go about everything else!

it seems proper opinion makes little sense

Originally Posted by Quinn

if only the money spent on players was spent on trying to
get rid of hooligans The FA , to me, should look at that

most footy fans attend with no bother ... it's a pity that some fookwits screw it all up

Its a pity 'fookwits' in life screw, or at least try to screw everything up really for the 'good' people, whether it be in going to watch Football or just going out for a beer and having to walk past groups of drunk chavs acting hard in front of teenage slags, who because you don't wear a shell suit out in town your the 'enemy' and they feel fit to make sniddy remarks and aim to threaten to prove that altough they are thick and have no jobs they somehow have one up on you.................

Originally Posted by 73GTVJim

Oh you know Fraser, it is an obvious jibe after the photos are seen.

We have some beautiful architecture and great history around these parts but we just get panned all the time for the supposedly interminable rain (what a day the Rangers fans got - same all week while Lords has been partly rained off), and for the travelling United fans (even though every one else has them )

I love Glasgow - as you say, similar snidey prejudices usually from people who have never been.

Yes I agree, Liverpool and Glasgow, cities of culture, not Madchester obviously

Originally Posted by Der Teufel

Yes I agree, Liverpool and Glasgow, cities of culture, not Madchester obviously

Yeah, right. Thanks for that thoughtful and insightful comment DT. I LMAO - it was such an unexpected remark.

Originally Posted by 73GTVJim

Yeah, right. Thanks for that thoughtful and insightful comment DT. I LMAO - it was such an unexpected remark.

I hate to disappoint....