Gyming advice

Just glanced through this thread and most of you seem to be missing the point ...

the only reason for going to the gym is to stare at the hot sweaty honey's ... I think we've covered this in detail in another thread ...

Baz its always good to take a run, cycle or X-trainer for 20-30 minutes as said previously not only to get your heart rate up and give you a good CV workout but also to get your body ready for further free-weight/machine-weight exercise. I can't really add any further information in regard to toning muscles other than less weight, more reps as above but if you are looking to bulk up one thing you should always do is work your large muscle groups (quads, hammys) before doing any upper body or other high intecity muscle group workout. This is to get your testosterone flowing thus putting your body into the optimum condition to build muscle. 45 degree leg press or even better, dead-lifts are perfect for this. Push your legs hard and you will see results very quickly. For example I started out maxing at 180kg on a 45 leg press. within 12 weeks, 2 times a week and only taking carbohydrate during sessions i was able to max out at 435Kg. Push your body, eat right, sleep right and look after yourself and within a few weeks you will see results. They may not be much but once your body is in the right mode for building muscle you're on a good thing.

Tim

Again Dibby, I can't argue with you.

I'm not in a position where I need to lose weight mind you (although I suppose some might disagree!), I just need to stop myself from putting it on.
The gym is at work, so very easy to go to straight after work 2 or 3 times a week, and also a hell of a lot cheaper than a normal gym.

So my wife (who is trying, very successfully, to lose weight) is doing an hour 3 times a week.
I am doing the same 2 or 3 times depending on what else gets in the way (such as the football or the tennis).
I don't think either or us are short of exercise at the moment!

The ankle started when I was stretching to block a shot while running. The ball hit the outside of my foot, bending it over. I then ended up putting all of my weight onto the side of the foot resulting in a large cracking noise. This was a couple of years ago, but it does seem to have weakened the joint. I can twist it or have it give way very easily. For example, walking on cobbled streets is asking for trouble! If it goes down off the straight without me realising it can just 'go' on me without warning.
I cope with it OK (mostly by ignoring the pain while playing football) but nothing in the gym holds the risk of it going, so it's nice to not have to worry about sudden agony!

Originally Posted by trickii

Hi Bazza - I did phys ed for my degree and train quite a bit so i can offer a bit of advice. Everytime i train i do thirty minutes on the bike to warm the body up and do a bit of aerobic exercise. One day I will do shoulders and biceps, next day back and triceps and another day chest and traps. You should isolate muscles and train them. Lighter weights more reps for toning up and heavier weights less reps for more strength and increase size. Four times a week is as much as you should really do as the body only grows if it is given enough time to repair, exercise breaks down the muscles.

Nice to see someone that knows how to train...

Personally I did 2 on 1 off going heavy light, heavy light to allow for recovery..weekend off unless got a change up in the week - when I might go on a

Used to do Legs and Triceps...then next day Chest and Biceps..rest day
Then do Back and Traps....and shoulders and Abs...2 days rest

Plus I would do some isolation with lower weight and do the rep very very slowly....especially on biceps and triceps...my arms would burn like hell after....but boy do you get results than using inertia and momentum to swing the weight

tended to do quick burst on the bike for about 5 mins to warm up and get blood flowing, not doing too much to avoid pre-exhaust..

But tended to do 10-20 mins warm down on the bike to slow down and decrease the detriment of lactic acid build up....



Chris

Originally Posted by bazza

Again Dibby, I can't argue with you.

I'm not in a position where I need to lose weight mind you (although I suppose some might disagree!), I just need to stop myself from putting it on.
The gym is at work, so very easy to go to straight after work 2 or 3 times a week, and also a hell of a lot cheaper than a normal gym.

So my wife (who is trying, very successfully, to lose weight) is doing an hour 3 times a week.
I am doing the same 2 or 3 times depending on what else gets in the way (such as the football or the tennis).
I don't think either or us are short of exercise at the moment!

The ankle started when I was stretching to block a shot while running. The ball hit the outside of my foot, bending it over. I then ended up putting all of my weight onto the side of the foot resulting in a large cracking noise. This was a couple of years ago, but it does seem to have weakened the joint. I can twist it or have it give way very easily. For example, walking on cobbled streets is asking for trouble! If it goes down off the straight without me realising it can just 'go' on me without warning.
I cope with it OK (mostly by ignoring the pain while playing football) but nothing in the gym holds the risk of it going, so it's nice to not have to worry about sudden agony!

I've done exactly the same thing with my left ankle 3 or 4 times while skateboarding and walking down stairs. I tore the Calcanofibular ligament (the ligament that connects your fibular to your foot) completely on the final go with a big pop when it happened. the trainin that i've done since then was sometimes very heavy and if you do it right, you will avoid any further injury.

Originally Posted by chrisd_b

Most of these gym guys and gals - are numpties

If your after cardio - do light weights.
If your after size - do big weights.

That is what a gym is for...

any other machine should be for warm up or warm down....they have little or no effect whatsoever in getting you fit....and actually do more harm than good.



Chris

Lol, Chris your posts are spectacular You have it all said in a nutshell really. But do a bodypart a day and then do cardio work it will help the weight to fall off.

Bazza:

A good and personally best for me cardio was the old skipping rope....

It is easy to get to grips with you only need to do the odd 5 mins here and there and you will be amazed at how quick your stamina and fitness improves...

Also strap your ankle.....stop you weakening it further.....

Chris

Originally Posted by 156Chris

Just glanced through this thread and most of you seem to be missing the point ...

the only reason for going to the gym is to stare at the hot sweaty honey's ... I think we've covered this in detail in another thread ...

Just for you buddy.....sweaty honeys..

Swimming is also a pearler of a cardio workout, but then again you're all Pomms so you probably don't know how to swim

Originally Posted by Pokinacha

Swimming is also a pearler of a cardio workout, but then again you're all Pomms so you probably don't know how to swim

Yeah, about as much as you all know about playing Rugby!

Originally Posted by Oggy_GTA

Yeah, about as much as you all know about playing Rugby!

To be fair - Australians are better at sport than brits...

But genetically they should be - thieves tend to be light on their feet


Iinncommming!!!!

Originally Posted by Pokinacha

Swimming is also a pearler of a cardio workout, but then again you're all Pomms so you probably don't know how to swim

If we had Australian quality pools I'm sure we would have a decent Olympic squad to challenge yours, there's something like <10 50m pools in the whole country!

Pools here tend to be built in the 1960s, full of old plasters, verrucas and baby poop and the sea is so cold it's not worth bothering with.

Used to go every lunchtime at work but the endless rigmarole of up-down-up-down-up bored me to tears, it got me fitter but it was far from 'enjoyable'. Amazing whole-body exercise that transformed my upper body into a proper nice triangle shape but it was a trudge to get there.

Originally Posted by Pokinacha

Swimming is also a pearler of a cardio workout, but then again you're all Pomms so you probably don't know how to swim

Of course you lot are better at swimming - we don't have to outswim sharks when we go to the beach
Besides, swimming is even more dull than the treadmill.

Originally Posted by Pokinacha

Swimming is also a pearler of a cardio workout, but then again you're all Pomms so you probably don't know how to swim

Too cold too cold.

And as Dibby says, too much detritus in the pools.

I agree with Alfa female, CV work can get boring pretty quickly.

I used to do 45 minute sessions on my rowing machine, id burn around 4/500 calories. I know do interval training and can burn the same amount of calories in probably around half the time. Interval training is said to increase metabolism too!

Originally Posted by bazza

Of course you lot are better at swimming - we don't have to outswim sharks when we go to the beach
Besides, swimming is even more dull than the treadmill.

As Dylan Moran once said about the Australian sea:

"then you go swimming in the sea which happens to be inhabited exclusively by things designed to kill you: sharks, jellyfish, swimming knives they're all in there"

Originally Posted by chrisd_b

Just for you buddy.....sweaty honeys..

Thanks mate ... just my type

If you can try to work out in the morning - you have more testosterone in your body and you can work harder - thats y some people wake up and their duvet is in the shape of a tent

That explains it