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06-04-2008
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#1 (Post Link)
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Free Tibet.
So happy to see the protesters disrupting the Olympic torch procession.
Though it's made me smile wryly with some people trying to put a positive spin on things by saying it's great that it shows in our (Britain's) democracy (do we really, really feel like we live in one? i don't) we can have and do have the right to protest.................. yeah really looked that way with all the ruddy police rugby tackling protesters to the ground..... while we're at it you are still not allowed to protest against the war in Iraq within, i believe a mile of Houses of Parliament, and the only thing you can protest against without getting battered by the Police is fighting for the rights of 'posh folk' who want the right to kill animals..................... crazy.
maybe should be in rant room..............
Anyway Free Tibet.............
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06-04-2008
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#2 (Post Link)
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Re: Free Tibet.
What a complete and utter 'Keystone Cops' comedy show it's been  Absolutely ridiculous, seeing them trotting about, and then jumping on buses, and in and out of vans. Did anyone manage to snuff that butane pipe lighter out by any chance. Was some of it really serious? 
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07-04-2008
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Re: Free Tibet.
I've got mixed feelings about the protests today. I agree with the protesters cause in fighting for human rights but can't condone the way that Konnie Huq was approached in such a threatening manner, that guy deserved what got IMHO.
I hate China having the Olympics. In fact I hate what the olympics has become, basically a giant advert for the host country. Or the the case of London, giving the rest of the world confirmation of what a bunch of berks the people in charge are. At least in London the houses etc had already been knocked down, no such luck for the Chinese made homeless to build their Olympic village.
Yep, Should be in rant room GT 
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07-04-2008
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#4 (Post Link)
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Re: Free Tibet.
there was a protest about Tibet outside
the UN building this afternoon.
Won't change a thing.
The Chinese have the western (US) economy
by the short 'n' curlies. So nothing is going to
happen to change the current situation. 
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07-04-2008
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#5 (Post Link)
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Re: Free Tibet.
Once I predicted that China will come apart in my lifetime.
I still hope so.
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07-04-2008
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#6 (Post Link)
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Re: Free Tibet.
I don't agree with what China is doing but the government in this country have no right to say anything about democracy..
We have a head of state and royal family that are unelected, and we couldn't change that if we wanted to.
We have a PM that no one directly voted for (and most people don't want).
We have a voting system that means that the party with the most votes doesn't nessesarily get elected.
We have been pushed further into europe against the majority of the peoples wishes.
Those are just a couple of examples.

Fiat Coupe 20VT, mildly tuned to 260bhp
Elephants are scared of mice. And to prove it there are no Elephants in my shed.
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07-04-2008
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Re: Free Tibet.
China has been a humanitarian abomination for far too long. It just goes to show how ineffective the UN are when human rights are being completely ignored by a country as large and powerful as that.
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07-04-2008
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Re: Free Tibet.
The paradox here is that China thought the Olympics would be a great PR opportunity to show off it's success as a communist state, whillllst at the same time hiding it's appaling human rights record. What in fact is happening is that Olympics has allowed the rest of the world to focus on those human rights abuses and apply some very uncomfortable pressure to the Chinese authorities.
Ironically, it's the very event that protesters are calling to boycot which is helping to raise awareness....Go figure....
Hooray for the Beijing Olympics....Tibet might get independence through it!!

"On a scale of one to ten, with ten being a sensitive, new-age man and one being a chimp throwing faeces, I'd put you more towards the monkey axis"
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07-04-2008
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#9 (Post Link)
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Re: Free Tibet.
Originally Posted by paintergirl
China has been a humanitarian abomination for far too long. It just goes to show how ineffective the UN are when human rights are being completely ignored by a country as large and powerful as that.
Totally agree, we should just nuke all their cities in a massive suprise attack. In the words of George Bush: "That'll learn the f*****s"

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07-04-2008
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Re: Free Tibet.
Actually, I was really hoping someone would have put the flame on the torch out. If the protestors had been better organised from the start, before the police increased their numbers, they could have outnumbered the protection and stolen the torch. If they'd managed that while crossing the first bridge they could have chucked it in the Thames. That would have been awesome!
Olympics are a waste of time IMO. Wish they'd picked Paris for 2012 
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07-04-2008
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Re: Free Tibet.
I agree the olympics are a waste of money, and they should have let the french host them. Then we wouldn't have to pay for it, but it would be close enough for people to go and watch if they wanted to.
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07-04-2008
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#12 (Post Link)
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Re: Free Tibet.
bloody rent a mob, have they no trees to hug
here comes the bandwagon, everyone jump onboard
hello where have they been for the last god knows how many years? china hasnt just suddenly become bad you know. but where theres a bandwagon theres rent a mob.
bring back fox hunting
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07-04-2008
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#13 (Post Link)
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Re: Free Tibet.
I totally agree Olympics is a waste of time, ok i'm biased i despise Althletics, i don't care if someone can run faster than someone else, i don't care if someone can skip into a sand pit further than someone else, i just don't care...
And i agree the very thing which China hoped would 'show off' their communist state, is the very thing which is highlighting Tibets plight and Chinas human rights attrocities.... I think it's great what happend yesterday. Its disrupted the whole pathetic arrogant 'parade' of the ruddy torch, not one TV image looked good, weather looked cr@p and made London look rubbish, the sight of Grey haired folk getting rugby tackled to the floor was shocking and some police will never learn that their actions will come across so badly in the cold light of day (adrenaline takes over for sure).... Anyway through all this the message is clear to all, many more people i imagine will google 'tibet' and 'china' to find out more.......unfortunatly though if you live in China you can't...their Google won't let you search on 'human rights' or 'tibet' issues, in fact they can do very little on google....
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07-04-2008
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#14 (Post Link)
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Re: Free Tibet.
Countries such as the US should ban the import of chinese goods. This would help our manufactiring industries as well.
But they won't because the low prices keep inflation figures low, even if it does increase the trade deficit.
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07-04-2008
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#15 (Post Link)
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Re: Free Tibet.
Originally Posted by symonh2000
Countries such as the US should ban the import of chinese goods.
Americans/West Europeans wouldn't stand for it. Our materialist/consumer society would collapse if you could no longer buy cheap consumer goods from abroad.
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07-04-2008
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#16 (Post Link)
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Re: Free Tibet.
Originally Posted by symonh2000
Countries such as the US should ban the import of chinese goods. This would help our manufactiring industries as well.
But they won't because the low prices keep inflation figures low, even if it does increase the trade deficit.
If they banned Chinese goods then they would simply source from other cheap manufacturing countries.
The days of metal bashing are long gone for developed economies. We now create and develop stuff and have other folks make it...
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07-04-2008
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#17 (Post Link)
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Re: Free Tibet.
Originally Posted by Will
If they banned Chinese goods then they would simply source from other cheap manufacturing countries.
The days of metal bashing are long gone for developed economies. We now create and develop stuff and have other folks make it...
Until China learn how to create and develop then we are truely stuffed. We are losing our technological edge day by dad... 
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