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Old 27-03-2008   #1 (Post Link)
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Re: Think twice when a Canadian asks you to go Clubbing

Just because some Canadian wants to eat a seal and sell its pelt to earn some money, we get all PETA and say no!
I say let them hunt seal. there are more than enough to allow sustainable hunting. Sheep have their throats cut when being slautered and you don't see any tree huggers having a whinge about that. shooting a seal in the head is better than harpooning it to death.
Let them hunt.

This is my two cents and in now way am i trying to start an arguement. just voiceing my opinion.
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Re: Think twice when a Canadian asks you to go Clubbing

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Just because some Canadian wants to eat a seal and sell its pelt to earn some money, we get all PETA and say no!
I say let them hunt seal. there are more than enough to allow sustainable hunting. Sheep have their throats cut when being slautered and you don't see any tree huggers having a whinge about that. shooting a seal in the head is better than harpooning it to death.
Let them hunt.

This is my two cents and in now way am i trying to start an arguement. just voiceing my opinion.
You hit a sheep over the head with a club and you will more than likely charged with animal cruely Normally the sheep are stunned by electricity and then killed in 'civilised countries......

However religions like Islam often do not like to use civillsed killing methods. Many Muslim Middle Eastern countries like their animals bleed to death whilst alive........and won't buy meat where the animal is first stunned.......Allah like animals to suffer
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Re: Think twice when a Canadian asks you to go Clubbing

I think its the fact that they are cute, fluffy little seals that makes people get so angry about it. Lots of mammals are killed in the most appalling way for food in different countries. To be fair, the seals probably have better lives up to and including their deaths than the lives and deaths of a lot of livestock bred and raised for food in confinement in the UK IMO.
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Re: Think twice when a Canadian asks you to go Clubbing

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You hit a sheep over the head with a club and you will more than likely charged with animal cruely Normally the sheep are stunned by electricity and then killed in 'civilised countries......

However religions like Islam often do not like to use civillsed killing methods. Many Muslim Middle Eastern countries like their animals bleed to death whilst alive........and won't buy meat where the animal is first stunned.......Allah like animals to suffer
So does PETA.

You're an aussie, so you probably know about mulesing. For those who don't go here

The Animal rights wacko's have deemed mulesing cruel and un-nessasary.
Now i've seen and smelt a fly-blown sheep. It's not pretty. The sheep will most likly die from bleeding to death because crows come and peck out their eyes because they can't walk.
Yes mulesing is nasty but its a darn sight better than a flyblown sheep rotting to death in a paddock.

People have been eating meat since the dawn of time and will continue to eat meat untill the end of time.
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Re: Think twice when a Canadian asks you to go Clubbing

There's also the huge amount of fish they would eat if they were left to live !!!

Has to be humane though !!
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Re: Think twice when a Canadian asks you to go Clubbing

I have to admit to not being terrribly well-informed about the seal culling.

We are all shocked by the barbarity of the clubbing but, that part aside, is it any worse than sheep or cattle being slaughtered for food and leather? Just because they look so adorable we are meant to feel antipathy towards the cullers.

It should be more humane than a thwack with a big stick. But hey, British courts are happy to let off yobs who do that to innocent civilians so why should we get too upset about a seal?

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Ammunition is too expensive, to shoot them humanely? Rubbish! Bought in bulk the cost would be minimal. They use that barbaric method of clubbing, either with a spike, or the thick end of a club, as it means more profit! Feeble excuse to practice thuggery on dumb animals! If you must slaughter them, use a bullet, rather than raw butchery!
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Re: Think twice when a Canadian asks you to go Clubbing

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Ammunition is too expensive, to shoot them humanely? Rubbish!
Easy to get hold of to : Amazon.com: 416 Cal .416" 350Gr TSX Fl Bs/50: Sports & Outdoors
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Re: Think twice when a Canadian asks you to go Clubbing

A bit of background that looks at both sides of the issue:
The Atlantic seal hunt – FAQs

The official government word:
Department of Fisheries and Aquaculture
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It is an awful troublesome problem ..but if we kill chickens and
pigs and cows for food then that's the same... isnt it?

we live in bad unequal world... that's the way it goes

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You hit a sheep over the head with a club and you will more than likely charged with animal cruely Normally the sheep are stunned by electricity and then killed in 'civilised countries......

However religions like Islam often do not like to use civillsed killing methods. Many Muslim Middle Eastern countries like their animals bleed to death whilst alive........and won't buy meat where the animal is first stunned.......Allah like animals to suffer
It's not that they want animals to suffer!! Seriously Islamic nations aren't full of people who love to inflict pain on animals and many are actually 'civillsed' as well. They won't buy meat thats not Halal for religious purposes only, not through wanting to see or know animal was in pain..

My girlfriend is Muslim and she's also a veggie.........
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Re: Think twice when a Canadian asks you to go Clubbing

Blindfolded, tied to a post, shot for desertion, grit my teeth and say a prayer, before my knees buckled. Just hope the 'live guy' is a marksman 1st. class.:

Don't really fancy having my throat cut, or neck twisted, or throttled, or clubbed, if you get my drift?:
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Re: Think twice when a Canadian asks you to go Clubbing

Just watched some of the live shots from the Sky helicopter! Little fellah's with flippers don't stand a snowballs chance in hell, and that's exactly what their snowy domains become. Needs a regiment of 500 Troopers chasing them hunters with steel sleeve ended pick helves, to do battle with them. Sickening,some were still twitching when they started to flay them. Nervous reaction? Can we try it on you to be sure? Shoot them humanely, to appease some of us!!
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Blindfolded, tied to a post, shot for desertion, grit my teeth and say a prayer, before my knees buckled. Just hope the 'live guy' is a marksman 1st. class.:

Don't really fancy having my throat cut, or neck twisted, or throttled, or clubbed, if you get my drift?:
that is a very human idea of things Zulu...
but

how does a such a society exist without being so brutal

perhaps we are are being as naturistic as any animal would be too

but then a global ethic took over
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And Norway is Canada's major market for the Pelts
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Re: Think twice when a Canadian asks you to go Clubbing

Originally Posted by GranTurismo View Post
It's not that they want animals to suffer!! Seriously Islamic nations aren't full of people who love to inflict pain on animals and many are actually 'civillsed' as well. They won't buy meat thats not Halal for religious purposes only, not through wanting to see or know animal was in pain..

My girlfriend is Muslim and she's also a veggie.........
Slitting an animals throat and waiting for it to die by bleeding to death is certainly not without 'cruelty' and as they claim their GOD wants this done, then Allah must enjoy the pain and Cruelty......
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Re: Think twice when a Canadian asks you to go Clubbing

I thought slitting an animal's throat was
actually a relatively quick way of dispatching it?

e.g.:

Jamie kills a lamb | 4Food | Channel4.com
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Re: Think twice when a Canadian asks you to go Clubbing

There was the Australian who said that he went hunting Alligators with a club.

When asked if this was dangerous he said no, there were 15 of them in the Club and they all used rifles.
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