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26-12-2007
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Newbie
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Location: Derby
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Tuning Alfa 156 2.0 JTS
Hi,
Im new to Alfa's and after much searching i decided to go for the 156 JTS '53' registered.
I love the car, which drives like a dream, but im interested in having it tuned.
Has anyone any advise of tuning/remaping the 156 2.0 JTS?
I would like an idea of optins available, costs involved and overall impact on fuel economy and performance!
Thanks,
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26-12-2007
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#2 (Post Link)
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AO Member
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Re: Tuning Alfa 156 2.0 JTS
Glad you like it.
but why not buy the V6 if wanted performance?
Or the JTD for economy and 200bhp tuned?
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27-12-2007
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Super Moderator & Competition Manager
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Re: Tuning Alfa 156 2.0 JTS
Moved to Tuning Lounge
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27-12-2007
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#4 (Post Link)
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Newbie
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Re: Tuning Alfa 156 2.0 JTS
The V6 and JTD where more expensive to buy and insurance was crazy.
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27-12-2007
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Re: Tuning Alfa 156 2.0 JTS
im in the same boat with the jts. im always getting told to buy a v6 or get the diesel.
im toying with the idea of a fast road cam and a re-map maybe do away with the pre-cats as there not really necassary. it will be quite costly and i doubt i'd have any change from £2k. i will however have a 180/190bhp JTS which is still pretty good on fuel not bad insurance and have a rather nice exhaust note.
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27-12-2007
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Re: Tuning Alfa 156 2.0 JTS
I love the 2.0 JTS engine. My 156 (now written off  ) had a belter. Much better than the "new" JTS engines IMHO (not that they are bad though).
Decent 10/60 fully synthetic & ZX1 metal treatment (used when topping up the oil).
Autodelta do a custome map but the gains aren't that big in terms of BHP but drivability will be better 
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27-12-2007
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Re: Tuning Alfa 156 2.0 JTS
Originally Posted by G5een
im in the same boat with the jts. im always getting told to buy a v6 or get the diesel.
im toying with the idea of a fast road cam and a re-map maybe do away with the pre-cats as there not really necassary. it will be quite costly and i doubt i'd have any change from £2k. i will however have a 180/190bhp JTS which is still pretty good on fuel not bad insurance and have a rather nice exhaust note.
Hi Guy's
check my post out as to taking out the precat's.which wont cost much.if you get your hands dirty
regards john
http://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/tunin...-decating.html (GTV ts exhaust mod plus decating)
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27-12-2007
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Re: Tuning Alfa 156 2.0 JTS
could you not just fit a 147 downpipe to my existing manifold?? then just have the threads made up for the lambdas?
good work btw 
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27-12-2007
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Re: Tuning Alfa 156 2.0 JTS
Originally Posted by Squadrone Rosso
I love the 2.0 JTS engine. My 156 (now written off  ) had a belter. Much better than the "new" JTS engines IMHO (not that they are bad though).
Decent 10/60 fully synthetic & ZX1 metal treatment (used when topping up the oil).
Autodelta do a custome map but the gains aren't that big in terms of BHP but drivability will be better 
Do you rate ZX1 Extralube?
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27-12-2007
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Re: Tuning Alfa 156 2.0 JTS
Originally Posted by G5een
could you not just fit a 147 downpipe to my existing manifold?? then just have the threads made up for the lambdas?
good work btw 
I know, you need a manifold from an earlier ts, then have the threads made up.that's all i did.or is the jts much different? thought it was the same exhaust as mine
john
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27-12-2007
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Re: Tuning Alfa 156 2.0 JTS
Originally Posted by rabw
Do you rate ZX1 Extralube?
Yes, I really do. I've used it in most of my cars for the last 8 years. Best let an engine fully run in first mind you so won't be putting it in the Ti for a while yet.
Will do the V6 GT when oil next needs topping up.
Benefits are more mpg (seriously), smoother & more free revving.
I think it's the real deal 
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28-12-2007
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Re: Tuning Alfa 156 2.0 JTS
Originally Posted by Squadrone Rosso
Yes, I really do. I've used it in most of my cars for the last 8 years. Best let an engine fully run in first mind you so won't be putting it in the Ti for a while yet.
Will do the V6 GT when oil next needs topping up.
Benefits are more mpg (seriously), smoother & more free revving.
I think it's the real deal 
It is something one of my friends raves about, but he can be the sort of guy to attempt to wow you with massively exaggerated claims.
Also if it were so great you'd imagine there would be a lot more people raving about it. Not saying you're wrong just what puts doubt in my mind.
How many more MPG, and how many miles in... my new engine has now done around 9000miles.
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28-12-2007
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Re: Tuning Alfa 156 2.0 JTS
Originally Posted by rabw
Do you rate ZX1 Extralube?
whats all this then?
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29-12-2007
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Re: Tuning Alfa 156 2.0 JTS
Originally Posted by G5een
whats all this then?
Dunno, never heard of it. Tell us more SR.
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29-12-2007
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Re: Tuning Alfa 156 2.0 JTS
just done a bit of digging and i wouldnt put it in with my oil. it helps prevent friction wear between two metals which is great but the oil in the engine does that anyway.
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29-12-2007
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Re: Tuning Alfa 156 2.0 JTS
Originally Posted by Roswell
Dunno, never heard of it. Tell us more SR.
Here you go
It's not just an oil treatment. It bonds to metal so if you go low on oil or on a cold start the engine stays protected stays protected.
Each to their own but I have notoced between 2 & 5 mpg more when added.
It's NATO tested too so not BS IMHO.
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29-12-2007
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Re: Tuning Alfa 156 2.0 JTS
it says that at 60C it bonds with metal creating a single molecule thick 'skin' does that mean it first sticks at 60C then stays on regardless of temp OR if the temp dropped to <60C it would 'fall' off again?
the 1st would be beneficial on cold starts if you use a poor oil but im sure new good grade oils would have accounted for cold starts and so already share the same characteristics.
it seems to be more for industry and more on machinery that has un/slightly oiled components where friction occurs, in which case its great.
a few of these posts are quite informative Extralube ZX1: Motoring Technical matters forum
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03-01-2008
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Re: Tuning Alfa 156 2.0 JTS
There are two update programs available from Dutch firms. Madeno (chiptuning, exhaust and air filter, for approx 1000 GBP) and Squadra (chiptuning only) for approx. 400 GBP. Both have many international and satisfied clients. I will check their websites and send yo the urls. Squadra may even have some affiliates in the UT and Eire.
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03-01-2008
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Re: Tuning Alfa 156 2.0 JTS
Originally Posted by Squadrone Rosso
Here you go
It's not just an oil treatment. It bonds to metal so if you go low on oil or on a cold start the engine stays protected stays protected.
Each to their own but I have notoced between 2 & 5 mpg more when added.
It's NATO tested too so not BS IMHO.
Hi chap
i've put some ZX1 in my GTV today.so we shall see what it does.
regards john
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06-01-2008
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Newbie Classifieds Disabled
Join Date: Nov 2007
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Re: Tuning Alfa 156 2.0 JTS
is the ZX1 ok o use with my 98 2.0 TS engine?ive also heard good stuff about it and want to give it ago, wont harm the variator or anything will it?cheers
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06-01-2008
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#21 (Post Link)
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Re: Tuning Alfa 156 2.0 JTS
Hi
chap
well ive put it in my TS.same engine as your's.just newer.will be putting it in the 33 as well
regards john
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07-01-2008
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Re: Tuning Alfa 156 2.0 JTS
I also have the 2.0 JTS, I'm looking to try change to something like the AD carbon pipe like this one that goes on the V6.
But is there any similiar for the JTS?
What other small mods intake wise are there without going the remap route as yet?
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07-01-2008
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Re: Tuning Alfa 156 2.0 JTS
that particular mod is only for the v6's. if you look at the jts pipe its free of any resonators where as the v6's have resonators in that peice of pipe. the AD kit gets rid of these resonators.
you can do the GTA mod though. do a search for some more info
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11-01-2008
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#24 (Post Link)
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Newbie
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Re: Tuning Alfa 156 2.0 JTS
I'd like to know about tuning the | |