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Old 12-03-2007   #1 (Post Link)
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Dear alfissti,
please advise me on mods to my precios 147gta. i first had 156 v6 and hooked to italian cars. i now have 147 gta and love it. the only mods i have is baracuda velvet 18" rims and remap.i want the edge and beleive i can improve on this fantastic car.
I want to upgrade to q2 lsd first and later increase engine to 3.7.Will q2 survive 3.7 upgrade or should i opt for a more expensive lsd?
secondly is the koni fsd best option or bilstein for this car in daily road use?
is there anything else i should do?
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I think that when you get a new 3.7 engine, Autodelta provides a new LSD for that engine. Might be the same anyway.
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is the q2 lsd the same as the lsd found in the autodelta 3.7 conversion
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No. The Q2 is a Torsen-2 while the Autodelta is a clutch-type.
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i wouldnt have a clutch type diff in a fwd road car,they can be a nightmare on bumpy roads,better bet is keeping the q2 and seeing how it holds up then maybe a quaife atb if needed but avoid proper lsd's
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Thanks for your reply. Please explain why the clutch type diff is not suitable for fwd cars. Also, why do Autodelta use it then?

Does Q2 and the quaife work on the same principle? Excuse my ignorance but I dont know anything about diffs.

Is it not better to go for the quaife one time?
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Thanks for your reply. Please explain why the clutch type diff is not suitable for fwd cars. Also, why do Autodelta use it then?
Because it produces steering wheel tugging and quirky behaviour when it locks, which is worse for FWD cars with McPherson struts (not a case with Alfas though). Several people claim that it is better for track use because it will never unlock itself if a wheel completely loses contact with the ground as a Torsen would. Maybe that's why Autodelta chose it for their 3.7 GTAm's but I think that it had more to do with copyrights from Torsen and Quaife and not being able to strike a good deal with either of them.

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Does Q2 and the quaife work on the same principle?
Almost. The Q2 is a Torsen 2 type diff while the Quaife appears to be similar to a Torsen 2R, judging by what little detail is revealed in its photos.

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Is it not better to go for the quaife one time?
Well, the Q2 hasn't proved its reliability yet, none of them has many miles, but in my opinion, if it is as reliable as the Quaife then it is the obvious choice because it is much cheaper.

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thank you. i am considering koni fsd and using my standard gta springs. what say you ?
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thank you. i am considering koni fsd and using my standard gta springs. what say you ?
Not a bad choice.

If you do a search there is quite a lot of people's experiences with different set ups.

Very much depends on what you want from your car, the FSD/standard spring combo should give good road car, and a big improvement over standard.

If you looking at track work, maybe look at some of the coilover set ups available, worth it for the more focused handling and ability to set the suspension up as you need it.
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Dear alfissti,
please advise me on mods to my precios 147gta. i first had 156 v6 and hooked to italian cars. i now have 147 gta and love it. the only mods i have is baracuda velvet 18" rims and remap.i want the edge and beleive i can improve on this fantastic car.
I want to upgrade to q2 lsd first and later increase engine to 3.7.Will q2 survive 3.7 upgrade or should i opt for a more expensive lsd?
secondly is the koni fsd best option or bilstein for this car in daily road use?
is there anything else i should do?
Where are you from ? I could show you a lightly modified 147GTA which would leave another GTA's for dust ! Proven on the track too !
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Hello Darth
I Live In Cape Town South Africa.
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hello darth vader,
now that you know where i am from how is it that you are not replying
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Did the same to me.....
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probably more to do with the fact hes out actually driving his car rather than sitting on the internet asking questions that a 14year old could answer than hes ignoring you................
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He can be a bit of a tease, see here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5blbv4WFriM
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hello darth vader,
now that you know where i am from how is it that you are not replying
Living in the UK it might turn out to be a bit to expensive to come over to your house to show his car.
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@ Caldo brill video
@ ukoldskool I wish mate just been silly busy with work
@ alfa 100 Sorry dude rut i did send you a p.m
@ Jnr gta sorry to you to mate
the mods i have are Full supersprint exhaust and induction kit from gsr (picture available from wide boy)., and a custom map made on the rollers and the road, best mod was the kw v3 coilovers. Got 18" teledials being fitted next week, a Quaiffe atb diff in a box ready for fitting 355mm bells and discs awaiting fitting and testing and now thinking about an AHM 3.8 conversion or sell the lot and get Jamie porter to build me a superchargred SZ (you know what i mean Ukold skool) other than that not much. P.M cph about my bits for my engine as he knows lots about it and can tell you more about the techincal side of it as for the rest pm me and i can give you prices as i have spent time looking for this stuff
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DV: Which option did you go for with the GSR? Full caboodle? Or gsr pipe and std box?
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What is this "GSR" kit?
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ah.. cheers pablo.. seen a photo of that before..a bit OTT in the visual department..

Is it just that silicon hose, or is there a filter+other stuff? where can you buy it what does it do, and what does it cost?
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Hey pablo i take it you are an FBI agent lol, got the hose and a modified air box with a bmc filter gave an extra 12 or so bhp measured on red dots rolling road, but best of all was the nosie, Just like a set of webbers
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fbi agent?

out of interest in what way is the airbox modded? And is the bmc filter similar to the OE filter?

sorry for all the Qs but Im thinking of getting one.
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