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Old 11-04-2007   #26 (Post Link)
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type of police officer like x files it was a joke mate
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ah ok cos of all the questions :P

I see now, Ill get my coat.
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Hello Ukoldschool.whats Your Point
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yay another thread turns into a ukoldskool vs <insert name here> thread
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Must admit i've got the bmc cda and it sounds really nice, but not to loud and compliment's the angel remap,i'm very pleased with them both.
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Filter, can't see the point in a freer flowing one if it is going to let warmer air in sooner losing power just to gain higher less usable peak power and probably let crap into the engine at the same time.

Pipe, still open to one of these for sound if it isn't overly loud.

Remap, was on the fence but decided against it for precisely all that kerfuffle you went through on yours 24v, if any engine related problems were to arise I wouldn't want to put the blame on the map, doesn't seem worth it.


On a slight tangent... still mod related

Would a remap be needed when increasing the engine capacity?

Performance cams, what are the cons of these, do you lose torque in order to gain hp, from what I've seen peak power is much higher in the revs, same midrange power?

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Hello Ukoldschool.whats Your Point
my point was Darth doesnt spend much time here on the forum, so posting 3 nnedless messages to him all within a few hours of each other wont get you an answer to your questions. If you go to the GTA section and do a search - all you questions will be covered.
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Alfa100 - If you are a Doctor .... How are you doing, I'm still waiting for a testdrive in your GTA ..., and what happened to that pretty blue GTV that is in your family ??

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Darth Did Reply Very Soon After My Reminder. By Private Message,was Polite And Gave Me Some Good Tips. By The Way I Find Nothing Wrong Asking For Advice Which Many Others Can Offer Even From A 14 Year Old. Down Here 14 Year Olds Are Quiet Smart.
I Suppose Some People Just Like Offending Others. I Find My Pleasure In Driving My Alfa.
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Hi Italian Job,
The Blue Gtv Is Still With Us. Considering Giving It The Full 3.7 Treatment. Do Call Me For A Drive In The Gta.
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Darth...

18" Teledials? Firstly, pictures!

Secondly, where from?
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Japan, where else?
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18" Teledials? Firstly, pictures!

Secondly, where from?
http://www.e-tire.co.jp/



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apart from the brakes which look stoopid
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why didnt alfa make them at the start!!!!
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While Torsen diffs have reasonably compelling advantages for many people normal road driving I would like to point out that the Autodelta clutch type diff actually almost eradicates torque steer, and I imagine would work much better on bumpy roads than a torque biasing diff mainly because it can't transfer torque as quickly as a Torque biasing diff..
..but also because it won't "panic" when going over a bump (not neccessarily airborne..) and causing one wheel to get unloaded.

Remeber Jeremy Clarkson and Evo and other magazines raved about how usable the Autodelta diff was on the 3.7 cars, lots of magazines and Jeremy complained about the torque steer from the Quiafe diff in the Focus..

All torque sensing diffs transfer torque pretty much instantly, modern clutch diffs can be configured to transfer it relatively progressively with an initial configurable suddeness and progressive locking up to a configurable amount.
I'm only hoping that the Q2 diff is somewhere near as good (but can cope with more torque) as the AD diff..

The T2-R Torsen racing type diff linked to below, actually adds clutch type capabiltities to the torsen diff!
i.e. it removes the classic major disadvantage of Torsen diffs which is that their behaviour "collapses" when
a) one wheel is very unloaded, e.g. going over a kerb, in the air etc.

or, perhaps less obviously:

b) when the minimum split of torque that it can send to one wheel exceeds the available traction, in this case inside wheel spinup will occur and the behaviour will revert to that of an open diff until traction is regained.

Neither of these is an issue with clutch type diffs since the spin-up is restricted by the friction of the clutch plates, the greater the relative wheelspeed the more friction - this stops all power being uselssly directed to the already spinning wheel.

This is why the T2-R added a clutch pack, to add preload to avoid the classic "torque collapse" scenario.

I don't know if they make the T2-R for our cars but it sounds like a really cool diff but possibly very extreme, with a 4:1 torque bias ratio.
AFAIK the Q2 torque bias is 2.5:1 and I beleive the Quaife torque bias ratio is 2:1 (at least these were the figures for diffs for a Ford).

Anyway next week I will get to try the Q2 diff at the Ring, and have already tried the Quaife and Autodelta diffs on track so should have the full lowdown.
..and I'll get to try Peter K's Madeno Racing diff, which is suspected to be a Quiafe.

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Because it produces steering wheel tugging and quirky behaviour when it locks, which is worse for FWD cars with McPherson struts (not a case with Alfas though). Several people claim that it is better for track use because it will never unlock itself if a wheel completely loses contact with the ground as a Torsen would. Maybe that's why Autodelta chose it for their 3.7 GTAm's but I think that it had more to do with copyrights from Torsen and Quaife and not being able to strike a good deal with either of them.


Almost. The Q2 is a Torsen 2 type diff while the Quaife appears to be similar to a Torsen 2R, judging by what little detail is revealed in its photos.


Well, the Q2 hasn't proved its reliability yet, none of them has many miles, but in my opinion, if it is as reliable as the Quaife then it is the obvious choice because it is much cheaper.

I'm not a doctor - but I really do recommend braking later
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As far as I know, the Q2 has TBR or 3.8:1, or at least that's how Alfa advertises it.
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You can add a c) to that list as I just discovered on a motorway journey last night. Aquaplaning, not good, when going through standing water on one side magnifies what you would normally get of a tug on the wheel. More interestingly I found going through water across both sides introduces a swaying on the steering wheel from one side to the other, which transmits to the rest of the car to what can best be described as a snaking effect. So reduction in speed is needed to what you would normally confidently do. Little ironic that Alfa's marketing on the Q2, though I suppose it would have to be, was as a safety feature rather than performance oriented one, that when the diff is needed most ie b) it stops working and then in the above scenario causes a negative effect.


re more torque, can see the greatest risk of failure to the torsen probably coming by way of the ASR, cut of torque, then a shedload being switched back on, something to be wary of before pushing it too much on a grippy surface whilst on.
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Do you have a link or reference to that?

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As far as I know, the Q2 has TBR or 3.8:1, or at least that's how Alfa advertises it.
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Hello Trailbreaker,
I Look Forwardto Your Notes On Q2 Diff
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