2.2JTS Remap - Mangoletsi

I've enquired as to whether Mangoletsi, as the Autodelta dealer of northern England can do the 2.2 JTS remap, as mentioned in another thread somewhere in here.

Yes, they can

What happens is Jano himself comes up from London for a day when there are enough to make it economical. It's likely to be a regular thing.

If you're interested - hurry up and get in touch with Mangos or Autodelta so I can get mine done

Good thing I'm back visiting the UK
soon, as my dealer appears to have
overwritten my re-map!

That's not good then Nev One of my concerns was would it be detectable & there's the answer

I'm seriously contemplating a map as one of my chums has it on his 2.2 Brera (along with some fruity replacement back boxes).

In raw bhp / torque terms, what are the gains

Also, how does it drive Nev?

Cheers,

Well I really miss mine now.

Not sure what those monkeys did.
Was in for service and alarm.

Once it's gone it's back to the old revving
pull-aways and slight jerkyness in slow traffic.

Back to AD at the end of next month.

Originally Posted by Nev

Well I really miss mine now.

Not sure what those monkeys did.
Was in for service and alarm.

Once it's gone it's back to the old revving
pull-aways and slight jerkyness in slow traffic.

Back to AD at the end of next month.

Did you tell the dealer beforehand? Surely they shouldn't overwrite the remap without telling you? It's YOUR car afterall

I'd be going apesh1t!

Originally Posted by Oggy_GTA

Did you tell the dealer beforehand? Surely they shouldn't overwrite the remap without telling you? It's YOUR car afterall

I'd be going apesh1t!

One of the pitfalls of living down here.

I did tell the car reception guy, but he didn't
want to note anything down in the log due
to insurance/warranty issue.

I'm still not sure how it came about.



I must say the experience has made me really
appreciate what AD has actually achieved with
their remap.

The car is way, way smoother afterward....

Could it be that the remap caused the alarm problems or was the alarm problem there before the remap? Sounds like they did something like "restore factory settings" for a mobile phone on your car, in order to fix your alarm...

I gues if a main dealer (Mangos) do it, ther can be no warranty issues

Originally Posted by Squadrone Rosso

That's not good then Nev One of my concerns was would it be detectable & there's the answer

i bet it wasnt detected, they simply updated the ecu which they would have done even if it wasnt remapped. if you have a remap you should tell your dealer whenever they have the car to prevent this problem.

Originally Posted by Squadrone Rosso

I gues if a main dealer (Mangos) do it, ther can be no warranty issues

Must say, the chap I spoke to at Mangos says they're offering the service on the understanding that if there was a claim later on which could be attributable to the engine remap, then Alfa could refuse liability.

So, I think it's fair to stress that this is an after market Autodelta product, rather than an Alfa Romeo product.

Personally, I'd be happier if this was an Alfa Romeo ECU update ...

Originally Posted by Oggy_GTA

Must say, the chap I spoke to at Mangos says they're offering the service on the understanding that if there was a claim later on which could be attributable to the engine remap, then Alfa could refuse liability.

So, I think it's fair to stress that this is an after market Autodelta product, rather than an Alfa Romeo product.

Personally, I'd be happier if this was an Alfa Romeo ECU update ...

Cheers. IMHO, Alfa should sort the map as slow speed drivability needs concentration. Unless you're careful, you either bog down or go to warp

Originally Posted by Squadrone Rosso

Cheers. IMHO, Alfa should sort the map as slow speed drivability needs concentration. Unless you're careful, you either bog down or go to warp

And pretty awful on an icy junction!

*bump*

Anyone thinking of this remap?

Yes but funds have been diverted to the Q2 fitment on the GT (Thursday)

i wouldnt remap a naturally aspirated engine. the gains are so small its a waste of money. if you get a 5% peak gain in power or torque you have done very well, but real world it isnt going to make a significant difference to your performance.

Jug. The gains I'm looking for are smoother low speed driveability & a flatter torque curve rather than outright power gains. I think the 2.2 should easily achieve 200BHP with a decent map though but as I said, driveability is more important to me.

Originally Posted by Squadrone Rosso

Jug. The gains I'm looking for are smoother low speed driveability & a flatter torque curve rather than outright power gains. I think the 2.2 should easily achieve 200BHP with a decent map though but as I said, driveability is more important to me.

Too true, and Autodelta are selling it on that basis, rather than power gains. It's not a bad engine power-wise - the spider tootles along at a decent speed.

Hmm let me see.........

My guess is the theiving gets...replaced the ECU for another.........good money if you can get it - even if it is from Alfa.


Chris

Originally Posted by jug

i wouldnt remap a naturally aspirated engine. the gains are so small its a waste of money. if you get a 5% peak gain in power or torque you have done very well, but real world it isnt going to make a significant difference to your performance.

Rubbish. It's not all about gains. The engine characteristics have changed so much. The car is so much better to drive.

I hated the lack of power under 3000RPM, it was like having a turbo fitted. I still smile all the time when I plant my right foot now.

Seriously. It was the best mod I have made to my car and would happily do it on any other twin spark engine.

Joe

a 15 bhp remap is not alot and not worth the money IMO. I mean, you're talking about a 0.1s gain at most.

Red Dot remapped a 1.6 T.S. and got a whopping 17bhp peak increase out of it, and it was only 3bhp down on the standard figures before they remapped it.