You are currently unregistered, register for more features.    
 
Home Forums     AO Club Member Gallery
Register FAQ Members Calendar
Mark Forums Read
Welcome Guest
Go Back  Alfa Romeo Forum > Supported Alfa Romeo Models > Technical & Vehicle Assistance > Tuning & Upgrades
Mark Forums Read

Sign Up Today!
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 10-01-2008   #1 (Post Link)
Super Moderator
 
OperationAlfa's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 11,684
Clutch upgrade.

I think I'm going to stick a 2.0 clutch in my 1.8 156 as I believe it is better to cope with the power going through it.

How much should I be paying to get this done?

I've had one quote at £340 at an alfa specialist.
OperationAlfa is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2008   #2 (Post Link)
AO Silver Member
 
Dibby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: South Wales
Posts: 1,808
Re: Clutch upgrade.

I'd be interested if there's an upgrade available for the 1.9 JTD engine (sorry to hijack the thread), the remap's almost polished mine off and I haven't got a clue where to look.
Dibby is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2008   #3 (Post Link)
Super Moderator
 
OperationAlfa's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 11,684
Re: Clutch upgrade.

Pud got one for his 2.4 JTD. I have no idea where from though...
OperationAlfa is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2008   #4 (Post Link)
AO Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 824
Re: Clutch upgrade.

Parts alone,
std clutch is around 100-120quid, even for a 2.4 jtd.

uprated are usually 100quid more.

and paddle clutch/competition use (awfull on the road) around 240-280 for 2.4 JTD, others may vary,

just a guide.
jasons is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2008   #5 (Post Link)
Super Moderator
 
OperationAlfa's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 11,684
Re: Clutch upgrade.

So is £340 reasonable on a twin spark?

OA
OperationAlfa is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2008   #6 (Post Link)
Club Member
Membro Premio
 
Chill's Avatar
 
Club Member Number: 296
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Lake District UK
Posts: 1,793
Re: Clutch upgrade.

Dibby

Apparently the 1.9 JTD clutch is the same as the Fiat Strada Abarth, try CG Motorsports at </title> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META name="verify-v1" content="N+1iCPvzrZlqZusiMPZVijJplhvgyoubQdjRzRBvp Qs=" /> <meta name="keywords" content=""> <meta name="description" content=""> <meta NAME="robo I have used them before and they know their stuff.

Chill
Chill is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2008   #7 (Post Link)
AO Silver Member
 
Dibby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: South Wales
Posts: 1,808
Re: Clutch upgrade.

Cheers Chill, I'll have a look into them.

Don't want anything too harsh and 'competitiony' but I could do with something that will take the extra torque of the remap.
Dibby is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2008   #8 (Post Link)
Club Member
Membro Premio
 
Chill's Avatar
 
Club Member Number: 296
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Lake District UK
Posts: 1,793
Re: Clutch upgrade.

Dibby

I think it is about 30% upgraded. Mine has also had a remap and I am having one fitted next month along with a Q2 diff, whilst it is being serviced.

Chill
Chill is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2008   #9 (Post Link)
Super Moderator
 
OperationAlfa's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 11,684
Re: Clutch upgrade.

Originally Posted by Chill View Post
Help me dammit! This is my thread.
OperationAlfa is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2008   #10 (Post Link)
AO Silver Member
 
Dibby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: South Wales
Posts: 1,808
Re: Clutch upgrade.

Could be a blessing in disguise because it looks like that site has a ton of clutches for a ton of different Alfas - you might find what you're looking for in there OA.
Dibby is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2008   #11 (Post Link)
AO Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 824
Re: Clutch upgrade.

Originally Posted by Dibby View Post
Cheers Chill, I'll have a look into them.

Don't want anything too harsh and 'competitiony' but I could do with something that will take the extra torque of the remap.
How much extra torqu does a remap give on a 1.8/2.0 petrol?
jasons is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 13-01-2008   #12 (Post Link)
AO Gold Member
 
symonh2000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Carterton, Oxfordshire
Posts: 7,989
Re: Clutch upgrade.

Whatever you do don't buy a techniclutch. I bought one for a Rover 820 vitesse and it lasted 50 miles. I had to remove the gearbox again, a manufacturing fault meant that it started slipping after this mileage.

I was very unimpressed.
symonh2000 is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 13-01-2008   #13 (Post Link)
Super Moderator
 
OperationAlfa's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 11,684
Re: Clutch upgrade.

Originally Posted by jasons View Post
How much extra torqu does a remap give on a 1.8/2.0 petrol?
bugger all compared to that of the diesels. about 14lb/ft
OperationAlfa is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 13-01-2008   #14 (Post Link)
Regional Representative
For the North East - AONE
 
Roswell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: County Durham
Posts: 16,277
Re: Clutch upgrade.

Originally Posted by OperationAlfa View Post
bugger all compared to that of the diesels. about 14lb/ft
A standard clutch will be more than sufficient.
Roswell is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 13-01-2008   #15 (Post Link)
AO Platinum Member
 
Pud237's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 14,504

Member car:

Alfa 156

Re: Clutch upgrade.

Originally Posted by OperationAlfa View Post
Pud got one for his 2.4 JTD. I have no idea where from though...
I got mine from CG Motorsport via eBay. The friction material is the same as standard but the main bit (don't know the technical term) was different when comparing it to a standard 2.4 clutch kit. I must say it has never slipped and bites really good, plus I only paid £130 which isn't too much more than a standard clutch kit.

Originally Posted by Roswell View Post
A standard clutch will be more than sufficient.
Yep, I'd say on a 1.8 T.Spark a new clutch will be so much better just for the fact that it is new, whether or not it is uprated. Whats the actual difference between the clutch on a 1.8 and a 2.0, if they are a direct swap for one another? I'd have imagined they were the same part, maybe just two part numbers so Alfa can charge more for the 2.0..


Weekend toy: Alfa 156 3.0 24v V6, Silver with red leather, Q2 diff, GTA Teledials, headlights & inlet manifold, AutoDelta carbon intake, BMC CDA, decat pipe and SuperSprint rear box, FK coilovers, Dastek Unichip - my 245bhp beast!

Gone but not forgotten: Alfa 156 2.4 JTD Veloce, Vela Blu, Angel 'mad map' & BMC CDA, Ferodo DS2500s - the fastest tractor in town!

AO 'Bratpacker' No 5.
Pud237 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 13-01-2008   #16 (Post Link)
Super Moderator
 
OperationAlfa's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 11,684
Re: Clutch upgrade.

the 2.0 has a bigger contact area. As I am running the equivalent of a 2.0, if not quicker, then its best to fit this. I have no idea why they just didnt use the same one.

I need to talk to you about your 3.2 pud as I have someone that may be interested. Will probably have a chat in the next few days.

OA
OperationAlfa is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 13-01-2008   #17 (Post Link)
AO Platinum Member
 
Pud237's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 14,504

Member car:

Alfa 156

Re: Clutch upgrade.

Originally Posted by OperationAlfa View Post
the 2.0 has a bigger contact area. As I am running the equivalent of a 2.0, if not quicker, then its best to fit this. I have no idea why they just didnt use the same one.
If its a direct swap and not much more in terms of cost then do it, no reason why not to for the sake of a couple of quid. Although I've got a feeling it'll be the next owner rather than you that gets the benefit out of its extended longeivity. If it was me I'd fit the 2.0 clutch though, same as on the JTD it needed a new clutch due to wear, but I still fitted an uprated one. If a job needs doing, may as well do the job as best you can. Alfa might have made the 1.8 clutch a bit cheaper to save pennies, at the expense of longeivity.

Originally Posted by OperationAlfa View Post
I need to talk to you about your 3.2 pud as I have someone that may be interested. Will probably have a chat in the next few days.

OA
Okey dokey

Although I've got a terrible feeling I'll regret selling it if I do
Pud237 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 16-01-2008   #18 (Post Link)
Regional Representative
For SE & London - AOSE
 
explosive alfa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: AO Club Number: 9
Posts: 14,553
Re: Clutch upgrade.

i heard the1.8 flywheel wont accept the lager clutch from a 2.0?? might be wrong tho. i too am uprating my clutch to a racing clutch from Valeo for 350 quid
explosive alfa is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 16-01-2008   #19 (Post Link)
Regional Representative
For SE & London - AOSE
 
explosive alfa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: AO Club Number: 9
Posts: 14,553
Re: Clutch upgrade.

Professional Motorsport Parts, Spares & Rally Equipment from Rally Design

look in here, they have an uprated racing clutch for the 1.8 too!
explosive alfa is offline  
Reply With Quote
Reply


Go Back   Alfa Romeo Forum > Supported Alfa Romeo Models > Technical & Vehicle Assistance > Tuning & Upgrades
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump

Powered by: vBulletin - Copyright ©2000 - 2006, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.