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10-10-11
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Selling my Brera :(
Yep,
It's time
Am waiting on VISA approval, so subject to that I'm moving to the US next year.
In the meantime I need to start reconciling finances, and other things to be in a good place for the move.
So it's time to sell the Brera.
I've struggled with pricing though. Looking at carzone, cbg and others it's impossible to get a reliable price for it. There doesn't seem to be another 2.4 Brera in the country.
Checking UK Prices it seems to fall somewhere between £11-£15k asking prices depending on mileage, etc..
With exchange rates, VRT and such that puts it around the €18k+ mark which seems high.. Seems a 3.2v6 of similar vintage ( Alfa Romeo Brera 3.2 4X4 COUPE - €17,950 - Used Cars on Carzone.ie - New & Used Cars in Ireland) is around that mark..
For the record, specs are:
2007 2.4jtdm with SV roof
18" horseshoe wheels with relatively new rubber (3k miles on rear, and couple of hundred on fronts (only on this week)), slight skuff on 2 wheels
Bose sound system
Immaculate condition inside and out.
Recently serviced by the sweep
NCT until 2013
Taxed until Sep 2012
could go on about all the standard "options" like so many ads but won't as they are standard.
What do you guys think?
TBH - this is going to be the hardest car for me to part with
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10-10-11
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what if I call the embassy to delay your visa, so I'd be able to buy it next summer...
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10-10-11
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Originally Posted by klapanciusz
what if I call the embassy to delay your visa, so I'd be able to buy it next summer...
Car has to go anyway - so delaying VISA won't delay the sale...
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10-10-11
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Unfortunately, advertised and realistic prices are sometimes miles apart.
Alfas depreciate like stones and couple some high taxes and a fairly soecific audience and its a complete buyers market. Another factor is how long you have to sell it.
It may be WORTH 15k, but what somebody will pay might frighten you.
I wish you all the best, in sale and move.
Ps, UK prices are no longer a reference, people are sellin to the uk as their prices are much higher.
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10-10-11
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This is a tough one.
Taxed and tested is a plus.
Diesel is a plus as well, but the engine size/emissions aren't.
The fact that (to me) the Brera is a very niche car (more so than the GT I think - that's not a criticism, just an opinion) is not in your favour - if someone is searching for a coupe, would they even think to include a Brera?
Advertise it in as many places as possible - DoneDeal, Adverts.ie, Carzone (even if it is a rip off these days), Octane, Pistonheads (not great for Irish cars, but you never know)
What do you need to get for the car? That's a good starting point. You can then decide if you won't accept a penny less, or, advertise for a slightly higher price, with the expectation that you will have to concede some ground to a buyer, but you still achieve the price you need.
If you look at a 3 Series Coupe, 320ds seem to have private sale asking prices of around €18,000 (330s/335s have higher prices again, but you seem to think that €18,000 is too high anyway, why look at 330s/335s even if they are more similar to the 2.4)
All things considered, I think €17,000 is probably a good starting point, but that still feels expensive in this day and age.
One thing I would advise is not to put 'ONO' or 'Price negotiable' in any ad - what's the point?
It's a great car, and if I was changing the GT, I'd be keen to talk to you.
Cowboys Ted, they're a bunch of cowboys!
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P.S. what is the mileage?
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10-10-11
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yeah, good luck with the sale. If you put up pictures make sure you include some interior ones, and take pictures of small details as well i. e. the bose logo on the speaker, the momo logo on the seat etc. I would still list the standard items, like cruise control, but wouldn't list air con if it has dual zone climate control.
If it's an "S", list all the items coming with the S package as standard in Ireland/UK, as specs are different between markets (i. e. the UK Volvo S60 SE pack had twice as many things as the Irish one)
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10-10-11
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Originally Posted by klapanciusz
yeah, good luck with the sale. If you put up pictures make sure you include some interior ones, and take pictures of small details as well i. e. the bose logo on the speaker, the momo logo on the seat etc. I would still list the standard items, like cruise control, but wouldn't list air con if it has dual zone climate control.
If it's an "S", list all the items coming with the S package as standard in Ireland/UK, as specs are different between markets (i. e. the UK Volvo S60 SE pack had twice as many things as the Irish one)
Good point - I meant not list to you guys - lol..
But yeah - for public ad I need to include everything - and I mean everything..
Nice idea on the pics
Originally Posted by CCOVICH
If you look at a 3 Series Coupe, 320ds seem to have private sale asking prices of around €18,000 (330s/335s have higher prices again, but you seem to think that €18,000 is too high anyway, why look at 330s/335s even if they are more similar to the 2.4)
All things considered, I think €17,000 is probably a good starting point, but that still feels expensive in this day and age.
Yeah - me too... But compared to a 320d - this car is streets above in terms of performance and most of the basic spec versions out there - liking your idea about the 330d - maybe I can add that to my advertising text.. It's a more right comparison in terms of performance.
One thing I would advise is not to put 'ONO' or 'Price negotiable' in any ad - what's the point?
It's a great car, and if I was changing the GT, I'd be keen to talk to you.
I never put ono - even if you don't put it everyone negotiates, and if you want to play hardball a bit folks then push you on including it.. I usually price to sell to, so why bother negotiating further.
Originally Posted by CCOVICH
P.S. what is the mileage?
30k miles
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10-10-11
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Best of luck with the sale Rik. Where abouts will you be moving to?
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11-10-11
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Originally Posted by GTV Gav
Best of luck with the sale Rik. Where abouts will you be moving to?
Arizona.
Now - just need the rain to stop for a while so I can clean the car and take some pics
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11-10-11
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Best of luck with sale man....
And of course.... *bump*
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11-10-11
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Good luck in your new adventures Rik, and don't be a stranger here
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12-10-11
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There are quite a few good tips can be found here how to make sure you present your car properly in an ad, so it will stand out (vs. "I took this picture with my mobile at midnight from under the car")
http://www.cobracountry.com/CobraPhotoTipsDipStix.pdf
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12-10-11
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Originally Posted by klapanciusz
Am waiting for a chance to wash the car right now - goddamn country.. does it ever stop raining during the day?!
Thanks - I won't disappear off here.. likely get very annoyed with so few ARs over there, and will need to see pics on here to keep me happy
Originally Posted by Cathal_H
Best of luck with sale man.... 
Thanks
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14-10-11
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Looking forward to seeing pictures of it all washed and brucey spruced up. Hard to price cars lately, especially anything non Audi or > €10k. Just not many ppl spending on bigger engines, they're buying frugal 1.4 cars for the same price saving money. Best of luck with the move and sale though.
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14-10-11
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Originally Posted by Alfa_Daryl
Looking forward to seeing pictures of it all washed and brucey spruced up. Hard to price cars lately, especially anything non Audi or > €10k. Just not many ppl spending on bigger engines, they're buying frugal 1.4 cars for the same price saving money. Best of luck with the move and sale though.
Speaking of 1.4s drove a 146 (first time in one). Well impressed with the pep in it.
(Especially for you Damo).
Rik your car is mint I'm sure someone will buy it....
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14-10-11
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Originally Posted by roarsbaby
Speaking of 1.4s drove a 146 (first time in one). Well impressed with the pep in it.
(Especially for you Damo).
Rik your car is mint I'm sure someone will buy it....
fingers crossed
Originally Posted by Alfa_Daryl
Looking forward to seeing pictures of it all washed and brucey spruced up. Hard to price cars lately, especially anything non Audi or > €10k. Just not many ppl spending on bigger engines, they're buying frugal 1.4 cars for the same price saving money. Best of luck with the move and sale though.
hoping rain stays off enough tomorrow..
need to clean her, good wax and buffing top to tail and then the pics...
once pics are done - then the ads..
am balling here - don't want to leave her go.. 
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14-10-11
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@PH everyone know's I love the 1.4 engine it's by far in a way the best TS engine imo. It can be revved all day long spectacular in so many ways.
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15-10-11
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Originally Posted by Damien_C
@PH everyone know's I love the 1.4 engine it's by far in a way the best TS engine imo. It can be revved all day long spectacular in so many ways.
I didn't gun it because it was Gerry's daughter's car but I was very impressed...
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16-10-11
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Originally Posted by roarsbaby
I didn't gun it because it was Gerry's daughter's car but I was very impressed...
Sorry Rory I looked at the avatar I thought it was Popellorhead haha my bad.
Yep, it's a brilliant engine. I'd love to have a ***** around with them and see how much bhp you could get outta it. I miss my 146 immensly.
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16-10-11
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Last edited by rikd; 17-10-11 at 15:40.
Reason: added octane & carzone links
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Nice selection of pics Rik  Best of luck with the sale
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16-10-11
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Originally Posted by David P
Nice selection of pics Rik  Best of luck with the sale 
thanks..
fingers crossed - in mean time I'm going to enjoy her as much as I can..
Once this sells it's the turn of the 500..
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18-10-11
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Rik, your octane pics confirmed the feeling that I'd seen your car before. My sister lives across the street from you! Lovely car btw and good luck with selling it.
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18-10-11
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Originally Posted by wiseguy
Rik, your octane pics confirmed the feeling that I'd seen your car before. My sister lives across the street from you! Lovely car btw and good luck with selling it.
lol - small world
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