URGENT.. Hub assembly needed.

pendragonfalls · #1 (**Post Link**) 08-09-11

Lads.

Help me get the Spider on the road. All she needs now is a passenger side, front hub assembly. The dealer I bought it off, has fitted totally the wrong one. Probably not even an Alfa one.

Anyone know where a 2001 GTV or Spider, is being broken. Or indeed if a hub from another model is compatible?

Cheers
George.

#2 (**Post Link**) 08-09-11

Keep my eyes open for you but would.you like me to go and let down the tyres on all the cars he has for sale!

mo4 · #3 (**Post Link**) 08-09-11

If it's a CF2 then it should be the same as 145, 146, 155 and gtv.

I think there are some differences in later CF3 cars where they use the uprights that are in the V6 cars.

Alfa155 TS · #4 (**Post Link**) 08-09-11

try partfinder.ie

#5 (**Post Link**) 08-09-11

Originally Posted by mo4

If it's a CF2 then it should be the same as 145, 146, 155 and gtv.

I think there are some differences in later CF3 cars where they use the uprights that are in the V6 cars.

I'm breaking a 145 boxer, are those hubs the same the TS variants, if so the search is over!

pendragonfalls · #6 (**Post Link**) 08-09-11

Originally Posted by propellorhead

I'm breaking a 145 boxer, are those hubs the same the TS variants, if so the search is over!

I believe they are the same. I'll send you a diagram to compare. Its on other pc, I'll do it in the morning. Could you PM your email address.?

And, thanks a million..

#7 (**Post Link**) 08-09-11

Originally Posted by pendragonfalls

I believe they are the same. I'll send you a diagram to compare. Its on other pc, I'll do it in the morning. Could you PM your email address.?

And, thanks a million..:mygrin1:

nee botha, pm now

pendragonfalls · #8 (**Post Link**) 12-09-11

Lads. The one I got from jim (propellorhead) turned out to be the wrong one. So I'm still on the hunt.

The bits arrowed, are what I seek. A 145, 146 and 155 should be the same, but it appears the 145 is actually different..?

spiderparts.jpg

swarlb · #9 (**Post Link**) 12-09-11

Have you the chassis no. of your car, there are different hubs fitted to GTV's even versions with the same engine. Why exactly do you need one, are you saying that someone removed the entire hub assy, and fitted a totally different one. What happened the original ? What were they trying to do, fit a new bearing, or hub ?

mo4 · #10 (**Post Link**) 12-09-11

Originally Posted by pendragonfalls

Lads. The one I got from jim (propellorhead) turned out to be the wrong one. So I'm still on the hunt.

The bits arrowed, are what I seek. A 145, 146 and 155 should be the same, but it appears the 145 is actually different..?

Attachment 125701

Basically it's the hub carrier you're after (the first three parts arrowed), but you should buy a new hub nut (fourth arrow) from Fiat when fitting.

I cant see how the 145 would be different tbh, it's more likely that the boxers are different to the twinsparks.

Is you car CF2 or CF3?
Swarlb's advice is the best option, get the chassis number and then you'll know for sure.

pendragonfalls · #11 (**Post Link**) 12-09-11

Originally Posted by swarlb

Have you the chassis no. of your car, there are different hubs fitted to GTV's even versions with the same engine. Why exactly do you need one, are you saying that someone removed the entire hub assy, and fitted a totally different one. What happened the original ? What were they trying to do, fit a new bearing, or hub ?

Exactly that. The car failed on the bearing. Guy took it to a mechanic, recommended by the NCT tester (I hear you thinking..!!) The guy just put on a hub he had lying around, rather than go to the trouble of pushing the old bearing out. Then just wrapped the ABS sensor round the hub, and "fixed" the light on the dash. Dunno how yet, but the clocks have definitely been removed recently.

pendragonfalls · #12 (**Post Link**) 12-09-11

Originally Posted by mo4

Basically it's the hub carrier you're after (the first three parts arrowed), but you should buy a new hub nut (fourth arrow) from Fiat when fitting.

I cant see how the 145 would be different tbh, it's more likely that the boxers are different to the twinsparks.

Is you car CF2 or CF3?
Swarlb's advice is the best option, get the chassis number and then you'll know for sure.

Not sure if its CF2 or CF3..? how do I tell? I'm sure my mech will know.
The 145 hub has a row of teeth round it. The one on the spider didn't.

pendragonfalls · #13 (**Post Link**) 12-09-11

Oh, and the actual "stump" the bit stuck to the bottom of the shock is different.. He changed the whole lot over. But the ABS pick up on the original is different.
Basically, the blokes a cowboy..

Mufasa · #14 (**Post Link**) 12-09-11

Originally Posted by pendragonfalls

Oh, and the actual "stump" the bit stuck to the bottom of the shock is different.. He changed the whole lot over. But the ABS pick up on the original is different.
Basically, the blokes a cowboy..

Did you shoot him for the reward?

Mysterio · #15 (**Post Link**) 12-09-11

George,

Alfa CF1/2/3 Engine Identification

#16 (**Post Link**) 12-09-11

Originally Posted by pendragonfalls

The 145 hub has a row of teeth round it. The one on the spider didn't.

I hope I'm wrong mate but that row of teeth is the trigger wheel for the abs I think. If the spider doesnt have that you could be looking at a new driveshft aswell, like I say I hope I'm wrong but I think the trigger wheel is always on the driveshaft and not the hub itself...

Unless your spider hasnt got abs at all?

Pud237 · #17 (**Post Link**) 12-09-11

Originally Posted by propellorhead

I think the trigger wheel is always on the driveshaft and not the hub itself...

Depends on year, early ones have a fat ABS sensor and trigger wheel on drivershaft, later ones have blade type ABS sensor and trigger ring on the back of the bearing same as 156/147/GT.

#18 (**Post Link**) 12-09-11

glad that was cleared up!

pendragonfalls · #19 (**Post Link**) 12-09-11

It has ABS. Its been hooked up to diag. And the drivers side is reading perfect. No teeth on that hub though, so it must be a later one.
A blade type sensor, not the one that looks like a liqorice allsort.

Pud237 · #20 (**Post Link**) 12-09-11

BTW I have 8 different varieties GTV/Spider hubs in stock and thats not all of them - feel free to give me a shout with your chassis number if you can't find one locally and I'll see if I have the one you need +44 1582 869 560

#21 (**Post Link**) 12-09-11

Originally Posted by Pud237

BTW I have 8 different varieties GTV/Spider hubs in stock and thats not all of them

so the 145 boxer hub could have been right, just not for this model spider

Pud237 · #22 (**Post Link**) 12-09-11

Originally Posted by propellorhead

so the 145 boxer hub could have been right, just not for this model spider

According to Eper its a different part number and not one that came fitted to any Spider from the factory, but that doesn't mean its not the same part, from the pictures they look the same. I guess the 145 Boxer hub with "antiskid" as eper calls it might be the same part as on the early Spider with the first generation ABS system.

One thing to bear in mind is that the 145 Boxer hub would need the 4x98 PCD hub flange pressed out and a Spider 5x98 PCD hub flange pressed in with a new wheel bearing otherwise the Spider's wheel would not bolt on.

#23 (**Post Link**) 12-09-11

puds a legend

Pud237 · #24 (**Post Link**) 12-09-11

When you have a brain like a sponge & do nothing but Alfa parts for 45 hours a week it needs to sink in...

#25 (**Post Link**) 12-09-11

Has the gunter got the old hub as if it helps you can use my bench press to replace the bearing as this could be your cheaper option but try mullingar dismantlers

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