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Old 09-05-2008   #1 (Post Link)
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Uk Home Office needs to sort itself out

So they can deport this man from the UK because the NHS killed his wife due to gross negligence, but they can't deport this preacher who is probably a terrorist.

What is the UK coming to?
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Re: Uk Home Office needs to sort itself out

That's because we've got this stupid rule (law?) that they can't deport someone if they may be tortured in the country we are deporting them too ... the trouble is that means we can't get rid of the biggest a*rsholes because everyone ones to kick the sh*t out of them ...
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Re: Uk Home Office needs to sort itself out

Don't get me started...
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Re: Uk Home Office needs to sort itself out

Woolly Liberal stupid laws from a stupid arrogant bunch of robbing Despots in Goverment, add a touch of European human rights and what do you get ??
Welcome to Britain land of the Free (loaders ) :2:

I sometimes balk at our own stupidity for allowing it
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Re: Uk Home Office needs to sort itself out

Fully agree with all comments
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Re: Uk Home Office needs to sort itself out

I think it disguisting as well. It's not that poor guys fault that the hospital killed his wife.

As for the preacher I would love to know where he is then send somone around to sort him out. Norman Kember would be next on the list.
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Re: Uk Home Office needs to sort itself out

Its Brussles again isnt it!! I blame them for everything. My tea wasnt ready when I got in from work today and that was their fault too. And last night I had trouble getting to sleep and then I almost overslept, and that was their fault too. Its got to stop!!!
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Re: Uk Home Office needs to sort itself out

Originally Posted by Alfaspeed View Post
Its Brussles again isnt it!! I blame them for everything. My tea wasnt ready when I got in from work today and that was their fault too. And last night I had trouble getting to sleep and then I almost overslept, and that was their fault too. Its got to stop!!!
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Re: Uk Home Office needs to sort itself out

Yes Brussels!

oh no it's actually a uk court
ruling, as per.

What's the preacher meant to have done?

Disrepect some whiteys?



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Re: Uk Home Office needs to sort itself out

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Yes Brussels!

oh no it's actually a uk court
ruling, as per.

What's the preacher meant to have done?

Disrepect some whiteys?



No its not about disrespecting whiteys (how come you can say that but if someone in Britain says Darkies then they are Racist ? ) any way ,....no its nothing to do with race its about a dangerous criminal who is an illegal immigrant who came to Britain on a forged passport after being convicted of terrorism charges in Jordan, but i suppose he will have a valid excuse Nev they all do

Qatada became one of the UK's most wanted men in December 2001 when he went on the run on the eve of government moves to introduce new anti-terror laws allowing suspects to be detained without charge or trial.

The 45-year-old father-of-five arrived in the UK in September 1993 on a forged United Arab Emirates passport.


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Re: Uk Home Office needs to sort itself out

But the article doesn't say what he has done.
Apart from being an illegal alien.

So how can we condemn him if they don't
publish what he actually did?

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Re: Uk Home Office needs to sort itself out

Well trawling through Google, looks like the evil
bastard got himself tortured and then tried in absentia
for "terror attacks in Jordan during 1998" no real
info on this. Which is a bit strange, but anyhoo...

Unfortunately, this "mastermind" managed to get himself into
the UK, which can't use evidence extracted through torture.

The only way they can "deal" with him now is if the US shows
an interest, because to be deported to the US, evidence
is no longer required and people in the UK no longer
have any rights if us.gov come after you.
If a warrant is issued in the US for you to be extradited from the UK,
you're as good as on that plane.

Sleep tight, y'all.
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Re: Uk Home Office needs to sort itself out

Originally Posted by symonh2000 View Post
I think it disguisting as well. It's not that poor guys fault that the hospital killed his wife.

As for the preacher I would love to know where he is then send somone around to sort him out. Norman Kember would be next on the list.
I'm with this. Just read about Kember in this mornings paper, what a ******.
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Re: Uk Home Office needs to sort itself out

Originally Posted by Nev View Post
But the article doesn't say what he has done.
Apart from being an illegal alien.

So how can we condemn him if they don't
publish what he actually did?

A brief History from Wiki

Abū-Qatāda al-Filisṭīnī sometimes called Abū-Omar is a Muslim who has been accused of terrorist activities by a number of governments Under the name Omar Mahmoud Othman he is under worldwide embargo by the United Nations Security Council Committee 1267 for his affiliation with al-Qaeda. He is wanted on terrorism charges in Algeria the United States, Belgium, Spain, France, Germany, Italy, and his native Jordan
After the liberation of Kuwait from Iraq (which Abu Qatada opposed) he was expelled from Kuwait to Jordan. From there he travelled to the UK in 1993 on a forged UAE passport, and requested asylum on grounds of religious persecution. He was granted asylum the following year. He has been in British custody since his most recent arrest, in August of 2005, shortly after the London transit bombings. A British court ruled on February 26, 2007 that he may be deported to Jordan. Qatada won the appeal against deportation in April 2008 under the controversial British Human Rights Act 1998 and European Convention on Human Rights despite suspected continued terrorist involvement, but remained in prison. On 8th May 2008 he was granted bail by the Special Immigration Appeals Commission with security provided by former terrorist hostage Norman Kember who Qatada had requested the release of before his rescue by the SAS in 2006.


So Nev we can see that he is a peaceloving individual here to work hard and contribute to society and integrate into the British way of life ?? Send him back to Jordan and then bill them for his keep for the time he scrounged here.
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Re: Uk Home Office needs to sort itself out

I work for the HO. The HO aren't to blame in the majority of cases. It's above, tribunals etc etc. As you say, it truly sucks but sadly, Britain is a soft as a steaming pile of poo poo when it comes to human rights.

Why spend so much money on crims when the elderly go cold & hungry
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Re: Uk Home Office needs to sort itself out

^^^ Completely agree SR.

A sad state of affairs we have come to.
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