Uk Home Office needs to sort itself out

Originally Posted by Nev

Let's face it, Al-Queda et al have won the "War On Terror"(TM)(R).

Im sitting on the fence with this one.
on one hand its down Al-Queda and the likes of their terrorism etc. Because all the terrorism I seem to see these days is from them ?????

On the other is this not all propaganda? Everything thats going wrong in the world is to do with Al-Queda and the likes. I'm supprised there not to blame for the current credit crunch

What do you do, who do you beleive?

Originally Posted by G5een

On the other is this not all propaganda? Everything thats going wrong in the world is to do with Al-Queda and the likes.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who's noticed this. Every day we're being drip fed stories that tell us that Osama bin Laden is the boogeyman, and is responsible for ALL the worlds evils. It's pretty laughable really.

And I can't help but think that if the US really wanted to find OBL, then with all their resources and manpower, they'd have done it a long time ago.

Perhaps they've invested too much in him?

Originally Posted by HSTDriver

I'm glad I'm not the only one who's noticed this. Every day we're being drip fed stories that tell us that Osama bin Laden is the boogeyman, and is responsible for ALL the worlds evils. It's pretty laughable really.

And I can't help but think that if the US really wanted to find OBL, then with all their resources and manpower, they'd have done it a long time ago.

Perhaps they've invested too much in him?

Thats fine then we can all just go about our business then, dont worry about Illegal immigrants , preachers of hate, the London Bombers, Hook handed Hamid and his defenders, the erosion of British justice, stupid Human rights laws, Its all just in our imaginations. Its all a myth made up to scare us isnt it ?

What a crock of **** !! you cant possibly defend the actions of Terrorists and Preachers of terror because in my book thats just as bad.

Originally Posted by rayq81

Thats fine then we can all just go about our business then, dont worry about Illegal immigrants , preachers of hate, the London Bombers, Hook handed Hamid and his defenders, the erosion of British justice, stupid Human rights laws, Its all just in our imaginations. Its all a myth made up to scare us isnt it ?

What a crock of **** !! you cant possibly defend the actions of Terrorists and Preachers of terror because in my book thats just as bad.

I'm not defending anyone Ray. I just like to look at a bigger picture than the one our media likes to portray.

You've said yourself on here that you hold doubts about some of the elements of 9/11, so it's obvious that you understand that we HAVE been lied to on this subject.

Originally Posted by HSTDriver

I'm not defending anyone Ray. I just like to look at a bigger picture than the one our media likes to portray.

You've said yourself on here that you hold doubts about some of the elements of 9/11, so it's obvious that you understand that we HAVE been lied to on this subject.

I like to look at the bigger picture too HST, but some things just cant be ignored and that is that certain factions and fanatics living here hate the West and all it stands for and to give them a platform in Britain defies belief. He is an ILLEGAL , he came on a forged passport he is wanted in 6 countries including some in Europe he has no right to be here and its my taxes that pay for these clowns to stay !! when will the people of this country waken up and smell the coffee.

First thing we need to do is stop sticking our nose into other countries affairs. Only then is it right for us to start kicking out those who aren't here for the benefit of the majority.

Have just read in the 'Sunday Express' that Qatada will sue the goverment on his release for 'false inprisionment' and could get as much as £500,000-00 if sucessful.I feel like crying!.

Originally Posted by raylek

Have just read in the 'Sunday Express' that Qatada will sue the goverment on his release for 'false inprisionment' and could get as much as £500,000-00 if sucessful.I feel like crying!.

Well that's what you get when you lock someone
up without charge or trial. I think it's
been that way since 1305(?) so uk.gov
can hardly say they didn't know about it.

Habeas corpus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

uk.gov are bumbling morons, but it's the taxpayer who'll
shoulder the bill of course.

"Qatada could be freed within days and it is thought he will return to his family, who are understood to be living in Acton, West London.

Once he has been released, the Jordanian father-of-five, can expect to receive £1,000 a month in benefit payments. The taxpayer will also face a bill of tens of thousands of pounds to keep the cleric under 24-hour watch."

He is off home to his Family in Acton West London after his release You could not make it up, maybe I could sort him out a job if he would like to send me his CV. (cancel that i would be fined or imprisoned for employing illegal immigrants )

I wouldn't worry about it.
The Daily Express is hardly a credible
source for news or information.

In fact I'd go as far as to say
they just make **** up.

BBC NEWS | UK | McCann apology a turning point?
Five Chinese Crackers: The Daily Express - for when a James Slack scare story just isn't misleading enough


Also please feel free to read this article
on how the scum British press like to
play loose with reality: (In this example
it is the Daily Mail)

Five Chinese Crackers: How the Daily Mail lies about immigration. Part I: "The Context"



Enjoy your wake-up call.

[quote=Nev;1770242]"A brief History from Wiki?"
I wouldn't judge someone on something
I found in Wiki.




So wiki is unreliable then ??

Originally Posted by Nev

Well that's what you get when you lock someone
up without charge or trial. I think it's
been that way since 1305(?) so uk.gov
can hardly say they didn't know about it.

Habeas corpus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

uk.gov are bumbling morons, but it's the taxpayer who'll
shoulder the bill of course.

That wasnt wiki you just quoted ?

Maybe more reliable than the Mail or Express, (joke)
But it is very easy for anyone to edit Wiki so
maybe using it for info on a single person or
ideology is less reliable than using it as a source
for info on a topic of engineering, science, common law etc.


Those are facts that you can cross check.

There is no other info on that bloke on the web
that I can find which is really strange, being the
badass terrorist mastermind that he allegedly is.

Originally Posted by Nev

I think it's
been that way since 1305(?)

Originally Posted by rayq81

That wasnt wiki you just quoted ?

Did you check out my use of 1305(?)
because I was quoting from a source
that might possibly be wrong?

Good eh?!

Is this the Ray and Nev show??