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View Poll Results: Would you inform potential buyers of a suspected head gasket failure?
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Yes
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No
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16.67% |
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31-08-11
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Ghana
County: Ashanti Region
Posts: 7
Member car: GTV V6
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Moral dilemma
Bit of a moral dilemma, discovered a suspected head gasket failure on my GTV V6, obviously a huge bill to fix therefore I’m faced with 2 options
1 – Sell as scrap / Part-Ex / Auction (£500)
2 – Sell as a classified without disclosing the potential failure. (£2-2.5k)
I know generally it should be a case of buyer beware, but I know how gutted I am when I buy a lemon (almost spent the purchase price fixing faults to get this GTV through its first MOT)
What would you do?
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31-08-11
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159 TBi Ti FTW!!!
AO Silver Member
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: South Africa
County: Western Cape
Posts: 4,666
Member car: 159 TBi-Ti, GTV 3.2 Q2
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I'd fix it and keep it. If I wanted to sell it, then I'd tell the new owner after first confirming that it is indeed a failed head gasket.
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31-08-11
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Come back soon.
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: United Kingdom
County: Durham
Posts: 53,448
Member car: a 156 SW
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Originally Posted by Ian Lusso
I'd fix it and keep it. If I wanted to sell it, then I'd tell the new owner after first confirming that it is indeed a failed head gasket.
what he said
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31-08-11
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Ghana
County: Ashanti Region
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Member car: GTV V6
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Not 100% sure its a head gasket, hydrocarbons in coolant, no crude on filler cap. Engine drives perfectly!
I pose the question as it troubles me, I wouldn't consider placing the car on the classifieds here on this site, however a site such as ebay is an auction site, vehicles are sold as seen. I would have very little issue with forgetting to mention it if I were to Part-Ex the vehicle.
Having owned numerous cars, I'm wise enough to know that sellers don't always confess known issues/faults. Indeed my GTV required £1500 of suspension work to pass an MOT only 2 months after buying from a dealer, they may have been totally ignorant of these faults but I doubt it.
The poll is anonymous, so figured it'd be interesting to pose the question.
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31-08-11
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Status:
DEFCON5
AO Gold Member
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Sao Tome and Principe
County: Principe
Posts: 10,415
Member car: 156 V6
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I'd have to say something...
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31-08-11
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Getting there. :)
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Suriname
County: Brokopondo
Posts: 6,021
Member car: 5 x 916's+Lotus Elan M100
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Originally Posted by 1of1
I'd have to say something...
Me Too! as i like to be able to look myself in the eyes in the mirror .....
.......... because im beautiful.
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01-09-11
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Summer tyres back
on!
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Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: United Kingdom
County: Greater Manchester
Posts: 2,338
Member car: 159 2.4JDTm Ti Q4 & MiTo
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I voted Yes. Seems the good people of AO are a moral lot, (by-and-large..  )
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01-09-11
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According to eBay rules the item must be as described and if the buyer were to find this thread I'm sure they wouldn't have too much trouble winning their claim against you.
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01-09-11
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Need a troll...Just
ask
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Club Member Number: 1014
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: United Kingdom
County: Dorset
Posts: 15,262
Member car: 156 GTA , E12 M BMW
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what hughsey said.
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01-09-11
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30 days to the
Nordschleife
AO Silver Member
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: United Kingdom
County: Bristol
Posts: 1,022
Member car: GTV 3.0 & 156 Sportwagon
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Keep it and fix it! - or sell me your engine
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01-09-11
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Status:
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AO Silver Member
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: United Kingdom
County: Cambridgeshire
Posts: 1,854
Member car: GTV 2.0 TS Lusso
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I'd tell them I think, if it does come down to a choice of scrapping or selling give me a shout I may be interested as I will be looking for a project in the next month or so.
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03-09-11
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: United Kingdom
County: Lancashire
Posts: 244
Member car: Giulietta Veloce 170 JTDM
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Originally Posted by conundrum
Not 100% sure its a head gasket, hydrocarbons in coolant, no crude on filler cap. Engine drives perfectly!
I pose the question as it troubles me, I wouldn't consider placing the car on the classifieds here on this site, however a site such as ebay is an auction site, vehicles are sold as seen. I would have very little issue with forgetting to mention it if I were to Part-Ex the vehicle.
Having owned numerous cars, I'm wise enough to know that sellers don't always confess known issues/faults. Indeed my GTV required £1500 of suspension work to pass an MOT only 2 months after buying from a dealer, they may have been totally ignorant of these faults but I doubt it.
The poll is anonymous, so figured it'd be interesting to pose the question.
if your in the UK surely if you bought a car from a dealer and it needed that much work at its MOT then you could claim against the dealer?
EDIT
http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/faq/consumer-rights
I thought I had read this somewhere
Last edited by gaz64; 03-09-11 at 00:18.
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03-09-11
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Status:
Alone in the
wilderness
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Join Date: Aug 2007
County: -
Posts: 12,887
Member car: Alfa GT 2.0 JTS
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I'm not sure about the "buyer beware" over there in the UK but If the goods fail to be of merchantable quality then the buyer has recourse to the courts and can get there money returned or if they wish to keep the goods a portion of the price returned .. so yes even though its fleabay there are rules , and as said I would hate to pay full price for a car thats a lemon
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