Thatcher State Funeral?

Originally Posted by rayq81

Ok im sorry, im sure we can wait till she chokes on her own bile

Must be enough of it building up inside her...

Originally Posted by rayq81

So that was the medicine then ? It never actually cured much, her and her goverment were the greediest nastiest bunch of filth only surpassed by Milosevic and co in modern Europe. She used the police to try and supress the people ( I dont include her supporters because most of them were greedy filthy rich wasters) she destroyed the country (well Scotland and Wales mostly, but large chunks of working class England too) she created a nation of money grabbing greedy people who would climb over their neighbours just to be one better, her policies live on in new Labour, as I have said BURN HER PREFERABLY while she is still alive

Ray, you cannot ignore the fact that Thatcher and her government was hugely popular in the early 1980s. A massive sector of the population in England voted for her policies. They were not concealed in a hidden agenda and they were desperate remedies for the desperate situation Britain was in. Hating Thatcher is just half of the equation, hating the state Britain had become should attract your equal venom.

Originally Posted by David Jarrett

Ray, you cannot ignore the fact that Thatcher and her government was hugely popular in the early 1980s. A massive sector of the population in England voted for her policies. They were not concealed in a hidden agenda and they were desperate remedies for the desperate situation Britain was in. Hating Thatcher is just half of the equation, hating the state Britain had become should attract your equal venom.

oh believe me it does (you dont read many of my posts do you )

Fair Point

i'm completely with cloverleaf146 on all this.

anyone wanna fight?

Not from me...but the poll tax was a barkingly stupid and unfair tax.

Just don't compare her with Churchill.

Originally Posted by ACAPULCO AL

i'm completely with cloverleaf146 on all this.

anyone wanna fight?

surely there are not 2 people in Britain that admire the witch ??

Regardless of anything she did, I don't think she did enough (good or bad) to deserve a state funeral.

Wilson and Callaghan did just as much to screw this country as she did. In fact the underlying economic policy of today, to turn this country into a service rather than manufacturing based economy was the basis of the Wilson years in the 60's and 70's. They let all the money out. She simply shut the door behind it. Neither of them got a state funeral so I don't see why she should either.

As for Scargill, don't get me started. My Aunt taught him at Sunday school and is totally ashamed.

Originally Posted by rayq81

surely there are not 2 people in Britain that admire the witch ??

Well, actually there were several millions of people who voted her in not once but 3 times

Originally Posted by David Jarrett

Ray, you cannot ignore the fact that Thatcher and her government was hugely popular in the early 1980s. A massive sector of the population in England voted for her policies.

They bought votes by giving away council
houses.

In some cases they were sold to people
who would vote tory to keep certain
people in power FFS.

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I didn't vote for her nor her party nor will I. Ever.

Originally Posted by rayq81

surely there are not 2 people in Britain that admire the witch ??

she was a very rare breed of politician - one who followed her principles regardless of how it would make her look to the public. compare that to blair and his image-obsessed spin doctors who were happy to abandon just about every labour party principle in the desperate hunt for popularity and votes. i could never have any respect for any politician of that ilk.

britain was a complete and utter mess by the end of the 70's so thank god we had a pm with the cojones to take the country by the scruff of its neck and drag it kicking and screaming into the real world.

of course i feel sorry for the people who lost their jobs in the 80's but they were all on borrowed time anyway, at least thatcher delivered an economy that was viable and which generated new jobs in viable industries. if labour had stayed in power the guys who lost their jobs down the mines etc would still be on the bloody dole queue now as there would be no jobs for them to look for

like cloverleaf says, thatcher was the medicine not the illness. and we all know the worse the medicine tastes, the better it works

Originally Posted by ACAPULCO AL

she was a very rare breed of politician - one who followed her principles regardless of how it would make her look to the public. compare that to blair and his image-obsessed spin doctors who were happy to abandon just about every labour party principle in the desperate hunt for popularity and votes. i could never have any respect for any politician of that ilk.

'This lady is not for turning' - Translated: I'm too stubborn to admit that I could be wrong, and even if I am wrong, I'm not going to do anything about it, except plough on with my ridiculously ill thought out idea

And of course Britain was a success in the 80's ane early 90's?

Have a word............

Lots of medical analogies on here.

But the Tory policies weren't
"medicine" they were a treatment.

That treatment consisted of uk.gov
collectively buggering the British
public with an enormous strap-on.