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Old 14-07-2008   #1 (Post Link)
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BMW 330d Coupe... (don't let AL burn my house down!!!)

I had this test drive booked a couple of weeks ago - before I agreed for ARUK to replace my current (replacement) 159 with a red 159TI - and was still curious as how good the current range of 3 Series Coupes actually were.

In the last few months I've been in a modified 330i saloon, (blasting across Germany/Switzerland) a 320d saloon (boring :yawn: ) and a 120d (pig ugly but swift and refined)

The car of choice for this test was a '56' reg 330d SE Coupe automatic with 9k miles on the odometer.

Specs:-
Current list price £32,900!
3.0d 24v 228Bhp - hehe!
369lb ft torque
Rear wheel drive.
Kerb weight 1600kg.

0-60mph 6.6sec
Top speed 155mph limited.

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The drive was alone, on mixed roads, mixed speeds and over a good variation of surfaces. I had about 45 mins before I was back at the dealer.

The weather was BLOODY wet!


Good bits:-

It looks better than the saloon, which IMHO is pig ugly. The lines and overall stance of the Coupe are so much better, whilst sharing very similar underpinnings.

Angel eye side lights - I guess a marmite thing. I love em. Others hate em.

Paint finish was excellent overall. Bear in mind this wasn't a new car and although the actual colour isn't to my tastes, the actual quality of finish was first class.

Engine. What a stormer. Seriously. Felt quicker than our derv CLS and I'll think twice about tackling one of these in my 20v 159.
Through ALL the gears it pulled like a train. No serious turbo lag and punched through the gears one by one. A serious performer.

Gearbox. Let's be honest, I don't like autos. Period. I like a mechanical connection with changing gear. I like the feeling of matching revs to gears. I like being 100% in control of what the engine's doing. So it was with reluctance that I took this auto BM out.
Comparing my current loaner Merc with this BM gearbox is chalk and cheese. The BM is simply one of the quickest and smoothest gearboxes Ive driven. In full auto the BM starts off in2nd gear and other than what felt like clutch slip it was smooth.
Switching through the gears on the 'manual' option didn't make much difference TBH.
Sport mode just sharpened the throttle and held the revs for longer.
I can really see why 90% of the coupes are specced with an auto box.

Ride.
Pretty good generally. Firm but not harsh. With ESP off, stepping out the rear on a wet roundabout was decent enough fun and caught it easily.


Not so good bit:-

The physical interaction with the car.
Really wierd to describe but it felt so very competant but just soooooo dull to drive.
I cannot doubt it's performance or ability to handle rough roads or twisty stuff, but I felt a little disconnected. Ok I can feel what the car's doing underneath me, but not really that much.

The seats were ok to sit in, but not a patch on the Merc's or indeed the BMW M-Sports fully adjustable jobbies I had a few months ago in the 330i M-Sport.

The interior wanted to make me slit my wrists. God it was dull. Dull, dull, dull. The same as any 3-series and with zero flair. Ergonomically it was perfect but for a £35k car, you'd want something better. The black leather (optional! ) probably didn't help.

The toys. There weren't any. Nowt. No blue tooth, xenons, sunroof, satnav, decent alloys, folding mirrors. Even the leather and floor mats are an extra.

The stereo was ok. Not great. The Merc loaner is better.

The boot is deep but shalllow. No surprise - it's a coupe folks.

The alloys. Whoever specced this with 17" rims should be shot. They look hideously small and make the car look poor. Even the optional 18" could be bigger.




Overall and interesting drive. Very surprised at the handling, engine and gearbox. Fantastic.

Not surprised on the 'very competant, dull and pricey' conclusion.

In M-sport version, with satnav, bluetooth, xenons, parking sensors f+r, etc it would be a great car and a great alternative, but that all adds up to a whopping £41k!!!



Overall a 8/10 from me.
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I'm experiencing deja vu and amnesia at the same time.. I think I've forgotten this before.
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145 QV -> 156 1.8TS -> 166 3.0 -> 156 SW 2.4JTD -> 166 3.0 V6 24v -> 156 F/L 2.4 JTD 20v -> 2.0TS Spider -> 159 2.4 -> 159 2.4 -> 159 TI 2.4

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Good review Hunter. My Dad got a 330i M Sport version (manual) earlier this year. Interestingly it's cheaper on company car tax to run the petrol (270bhp) than the diesel - AND - it's averaging mid to high 30s in normal use!


Bloody thing...
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Thanks for the review H. Interestingly a mate of mine had (for 6 months only) a 520d M-sport. I thought the seats were terrible - wide, flat and unsupportive. The seats in my 159 Lusso were far better IMO.

It was a company car and he changed jobs, so the car had to go, but not before he said it was pretty dull and he preferred his previous volvo S70 2.5LBT.
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Made good reading, thank you Hunter.

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Can Alfa get the BM engine into a 159

Or rebody the 330d coupe in 159 form and RWD
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I had a 320D M-sport Coupe to temporarily replace my 120d coupe (after it had an altercation with a Focus!).

I just about agree with all you say to be honest, obviously with 2.0 Deisel it wasn't as good as the 3.0 in your car but it was OK. The gearbox suprised me, boring in drive, but when you knocked it into sport manual it was great fun. I expected it to kill the fuel economy but it didn't, that was pretty good to. The intirior of the one I had was in cream leather, it looked like the inside of an ice cream... awfull!!

All in all I thought it was very good car though, a little to laid back and remote for my liking, my Coupe is definately a more focused drivers car, but that can have it's drawbacks.

I'm sure there will be a flurry of anti BMW Alfa blinded responses coming up soon though
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I have to say the 330d's are great cars.. very quick too. Even the GTA had to battle to keep in front of one the other day!
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II'm sure there will be a flurry of anti BMW Alfa blinded responses coming up soon though
Strangely enough it is the frequency of these posts that has caused me to moderate my opinion of BMs. That and the polite treatment I've had from quite a few BM drivers recently.

Still wouldn't have one though - never have "got" the attraction.
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I had a 320D M-sport Coupe to temporarily replace my 120d coupe (after it had an altercation with a Focus!).

I just about agree with all you say to be honest, obviously with 2.0 Deisel it wasn't as good as the 3.0 in your car but it was OK. The gearbox suprised me, boring in drive, but when you knocked it into sport manual it was great fun. I expected it to kill the fuel economy but it didn't, that was pretty good to. The intirior of the one I had was in cream leather, it looked like the inside of an ice cream... awfull!!

All in all I thought it was very good car though, a little to laid back and remote for my liking, my Coupe is definately a more focused drivers car, but that can have it's drawbacks.

I'm sure there will be a flurry of anti BMW Alfa blinded responses coming up soon though
Yes, one of the options I was looking at was silver with red leather. But the red looked cherry and overpowering. Quite vile actually. The germans just dont seem to do the 'style' thing that well, even if mechanically the 3 coupe was surprisingly good.
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I have to say the 330d's are great cars.. very quick too. Even the GTA had to battle to keep in front of one the other day!
Honestly, I would say that a GTA would struggle. Ok, so the power delivery in the BM is different, but I was shocked at its pace. My last run in a GTA was about 2 years ago and perhaps time has blurred my memory of it, but I'd swear the 330d was on a par, if not swifter than the GTA I was in...

God knows what the 335d Coupe would be like!
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Strangely enough it is the frequency of these posts that has caused me to moderate my opinion of BMs. That and the polite treatment I've had from quite a few BM drivers recently.

Still wouldn't have one though - never have "got" the attraction.

I nearly did Fraser! Oh so so close...
If ARUK didn't come back in that last 5 mins, I would be in a BM by now and probably bored out of my head...
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Nice review, but let's stop this BMW thing you've got going, ok!?!

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The BMW things is on pause for the time being BF At least until I'm happy with the TI replacement.

Trying to bring a balance to this forum too. I never liked Bm's of the past and this thrash around in the Coupe softened my views. A good car IMHO and not to be discounted (or raced!)
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I agree about the remoteness of the feel in the 330 auto, it felt a little more numb than the 320 manual we had on demo, although the 330 we testd rove was also an SE and our demo 320 was an m-sport.

It's really difficult to make a comparison between the two in some ways because of the vastly different dynamism engendered by radically different components they are like chalk and cheese.

Although I found the 330 a very smooth and powerful engine the rest of the car let it down. Whereas the 320d M-Sport feels taught and lively in comparison but maybe a little underpowered.

Options wise I find the M-Sport package brings in a lot of what you don't get in SE, M-Sport is SE trim plus a whole load of other stuff. On our car we have also specced with some nice extras like fully electric memory seats. They are so adjustable you have to have this if there's 2 of you using the car.

Love the pneumatic side bolsters Suzy is having ours delivered this afternoon so can't wait til she comes home Thursday

Not fussed about mental power in the car, that what the GTA is for
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