BMW/Fiat collaboration

Apparently BMW and Fiat have done a deal to develop the next Punto and Mini on a shared platform:

Fiat e BMW - ACCORDO IN VISTA - News - Quattroruote

They say it could be announced tomorrow and could also be extended to developing new engines together.

dont speak italian, ill take your word for it!

be an interesting partnership...

I thought this had already happened before?
As i understood the Smg system on the E36 M3 was developed from the Alfa selespeed system ?1

Originally Posted by bobster

I thought this had already happened before?
As i understood the Smg system on the E36 M3 was developed from the Alfa selespeed system ?1

I think Magneti Marelli supplied both Alfa/Fiat and BMW with similar parts, it wasn't a specifically Alfa system to begin with, I'm sure..

Actually the selespeed (and other Fiat-brand cutchless manuals) are made by a different, small company in Italy not Magneti Marelli.

Aisin is the company, and they are Japenese

AISIN

Alfa must be gutted that it has enhanced Alfas reputation for being less than reliable.

the new KA is based on the Panda appaerently, so there is alot of platform sharing going on.

We may be talking about different parts, because the company is this one: Graziano

The KA is based on the 500.

500 is a Panda too IIRC

Originally Posted by BigFoot

We may be talking about different parts, because the company is this one: Graziano

looks like I was mistaken, Aisin do the Q auto boxes

Here is some info in english Update: BMW to work with Fiat, Alfa Romeo on small car components and another Alfa Romeo announces partnership with BMW | Cars on the net
Scary though, dancing with the devil can get your whiskers singed..... and when you consider what BMW did to Rover, I hope this deal hasn't got any stealth motives

The supplier of the Selespeed hydraulic AMT system is Magneti Marelli, part of the Fiat Group. Graziano make some gearboxes using it. Its quiet widely used, by Fiat, BMW in the past, Renault, Mercedes and others. I believe Graziano used it for Aston Martin at some point.