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#1 ·
So I have been thinking over the last couple of months about selling the cup.:(
Not sure if i will be able to do it or not as she is such a fantastic car and i have put a lot into her over the last few years. I have allways wanted an sz or a montreal though and i cant save pennies for a classic while i'm allways thinking up new things to do to the cup.
I am also worried that my constant tinkering and adding upgrades will make her over modified from original cup spec. People seem to like these cars as standard.
I have a rough price in my mind as to what i think i should put her up for(i'm a bit biased though)so i thought i would start this thread to see what you guys think.
Here are the details 2002 gtv cup,110k,Full service history,11 months mot
Q2 Diff,
Raggazzon stainless steel quad exhaust cat back,
Custom autodelta aprons,
Autodelta filter and carbon intake,
monza sport remap,
weichers aluminium strut brace,
last summer the lovely chaps at autolusso carried out the following:
330mm front brakes,discs and calipers,braided hoses,pf pads,new copper pipes
GTA Clutch and light weight flywheel,
Powerflexed and powdercoated rear suspenssion,
four wheel laser alignment
two new front tyre (pirrelli p zero assimetrico,s),
lower engine mount,
So far this year she has just been to the equally fantastic guys at day and whites where she had the following carried out;
New cambelt,water pump ect,
new front drop link and suspenssion wishbone,
New lambda sensor,
Two new inner cv boots,
Two new rear tyres ( P zero,s again)
full spark plugs,oil ect service,
New rear discs and pads,
Four wheel laser alignment,
Sorting the passenger side widow regulator(after my attepts to fit it.I couldnt quite stop all the wind noise)
Engine bay detail.
Other little bits i have done myself include clear side repeaters,new clutch slave cylinder,new maf sensor,upgraded windscreen wipers and some nice qv wing badges.
She comes back later today from the body shop where she has had the front splitter made beautiful again.
So there it is. I might have missed some bits out but i think tjhats the lot. I have spent something like £7500 (not including buying her) on her over the last couple of years because i wanted her to be perfect. All that would be left is maybe a respray?She does have the odd nick here and there.
I know that the mileage is a consideration and i,m willing to take that into account.
What do guys think?
I await with baited breath.:thumbs:
 

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#2 ·
I'm a bit biased too, so I'm going to say eleventy-thousand pounds :p

If I'm not mistaken, that's Tony's (HappyMan) old Cup isn't it?

It's a fantastic car, and from what I've seen always immaculate, and has had some great work done. The only problem I can forsee is the mileage, 110k is a lot. I'd say on average from what I've seen, Cups are about 60-80k.

Good luck with the sale, and if you should consider putting anything back to standard to make it easier give me a shout as I'm in the market for changing a few things on mine. In fact, if I had the money to spare I'd do every mod on your list.
 
#6 ·
I had a figure a bit higher than that in mind. I see standard but clean v6,s go for 4 to 5k.
But then i think that the market under values gtv,s. I think its amazing what you can get for very little these days.
Cheers for your thoughts:thumbs:
 
#8 ·
Cups definately command a premium. If your car was a non cup i would expect to be on sale for around £2.75k - £3k. I sold my GTV V6 about 3 months ago it was a 51 reg with 91k, about 10k in receipts. I spent about £3.5k in the year i had her on GTA Clutch, cambelt etc etc i sold it to a fellow member for just over £3k.

Wish i could have kept her, but at the time i had 5 Alfas! GTVs are cracking cars for the money and i will definately buy a 3rd V6 GTV. If you can i would keep hold of it.
 
#10 ·
Sorn it and park it away under a nice lint free cover!!!
GTV's have risen in price since august last year, slowly but surely, I've seen 2 cups in poorer condition go for £4500 so in respect i think £5k plus is achievable, Might be worth having a word with Clive, He'll know the figures im sure!
 
#15 ·
I dont think i could face her sitting there not being driven. There does seem to be a big difference in premium for various cups. Alfamania have a nice one up for £7900 which is tidy.I think mine is overall better though even with higher mileage.:p
Clives thoughts will be interesting.:)
 
#20 ·
You might be right. I am hoping that should i decide to sell her that any interested party would be able to see past the mileage on account of the improvements made and a good service record. I think mine is better than this one (although it is very nice)
Alfa Romeo : GTV CUP
No mention of mileage but it has had a 72k service and could be due a cambelt soonish.
 
#14 ·
Yep, sounds about right, You'll find that the engines are cheap as chips these days but some people aren't bothered enough to replace them so they go for a lower miled car, I would buy a car regardless of engine, It's all down to the chassis, You'll always find a scrapper at a local breakers yard with an engine :)
 
#16 ·
i just bought a well maintained 156 gta sportwagon with 114000miles and everyone says it drives better than my gta saloon with 70k on the clock, its a v6, but will affect the highest price you will acheive. really want a cup will finish off my alfa collection.
 
#17 ·
hmm.. i would say a good 5 grand mate surely but like anything people will pay what they think its worth if u get some one who loves there alfa's like alot of us on here do then we would be more then happy to pay good money for a cup and especially something like yours really nicely done bud :)
 
#30 ·
No I didn't :)
There was a reason for that I'd have only wanted her back and Mrs HM would have skinned me alive :lol:

110k on the Arese V6 is nowt if she's been looked after which we both know she has :)
 
#31 ·
If you're handy with the spanners you may as well put it back to standard and then sell it. For example you'll probably get £500 for the brake kit plus someone's old 305s in exchange. Stuff like 330 brakes doesn't add value to a GTV V6, so you may as well sell them off the car.

I did this with my 3 litre 156 and got back most of what I spent on upgrades.

Brakes £500
AD apron £150
Strut brace £50
AD intake £80
Ragazzon quads £300
Q2 diff £400

All of that stuff adds no value to the car and if anything, puts off a lot of potential buyer's. Except the Q2 which is a bonus, but not one people will pay extra for on a Cup in my opinion.
 
#32 ·
Couldn't agree more, It's a lot to lose with those upgrades,
As for the V6 engines,
I saw 1 lump go for £300 with 39k genuine miles, Another one went for £277 with 43k on the clock both had recent belt services aswell from what I remember!
I've become an alfaholic over the last year so i'm always there to spot a bargain, I also saw a V6 box with Q2 at a local scrap yard sell for just £150, i was about to buy it myself and sell it on here to make a small drinks profit but a guy jumped in before me to get it!
Bargains are about but you need to be a hawk to spot them!

As for the Cup, It's worth the money in many ways, People don't realise there's a difference between mileage, i.e. motorway miles and road miles, Road miles are typical of little hooligans in burberry caps ragging around in Mcdonalds car parks at night hiding from the potential blue light brigade around the corner whilst our motorway friends are usually chaps that spend all day back and forth doing 100 mile stints at 80mph to save on the company fuel allowance!
It's not to say this cup has been motorway wagon, but i can see a lot of effort and respect has been put into her :)
 
#36 ·
£5.5k I think is fair. Mileage is not such a big issue with the V6 so long as maintained well during life (which yours ahs by the sound of it). These engines are tried and tested and generally are fine. Problem is some people would think mileage is too high. My V6 is on £130k, and still perfect.

Good luck with sale.
 
#42 ·
:lol: Yeah your right. Our very own mini meet in the wide bay spaces:lol:.. Havent seen you there for a bit mate.

Most buyers will have a problem with high milage. You need to sell to an alfisti who knows what he gets with your cup. Might take a while but i am sure there is people out there.
If your car would be over here i would`ve bought it straight away. :lol:

Edit: As mentioned by others: You don`t really want to sell that fantastic car. You will regret it. 6k is a relative small sum compared to the 20+k you will have to invest into a montreal. Postpone your projekt for a little and save up another 6k. The harder thing will be restraining yourself throwing all you save at the cup. :D
Yeah your right. I would like to see her go to a forum member should it ever come to it.
The last part of your post is spot on and pretty much the reason behind me considering selling the cup. I cant stop spending on her.

You can't ignore mileage on any car, just because the engine is good for interstellar mileage doesn't mean the rest of the car will be. All bushes would be well worn and if on rubber should have been through a couple of sets. The body flexes and this will loosen the car up. New cars feel tight not just because the engine but because of everything else including a welded body which loses strength due to flex. Personally £8k for an older car with well over 100k on the clock doesn't sound feasible to me and it could take months/years to sell, the 100k mark is still a significant issue for many people end of the day most people want a car with as lower mileage as possible for the best possible price. As a private sale I would expect to save a small packet on dealer prices.
You are right that you cannot ignore mileage on a car. But i think that if there is a proven history with it then its not a problem. I think the only parts left on this car that have done 110k are the engine and chasis.:lol:
I also agree with you that most people are wary and want a low mie car for the best price. Low miles doesnt mean a good car though,there are plenty of other factors to take into account.
My cup wouldnt be the best choice for everybody perhaps because of the mileage but for those clever enough to look below the surface they would see that they are getting a well loved and rare car with none of the niggling little issues you might find on other examples. :)Dealer or private.
Cheers -matt-.
 
#39 · (Edited)
Can`t help you with the price since the prices in the UK tend to be lower then over here.
I did buy a 100k mile 3.0L GTV for 6.5k € last summer though. I had trouble accepting the high milage until i saw the car. Mint condition (ofc some minor things came up so far but really minor only) and perfectly looked after including a brandnew timing belt.

Had a short talk to my alfa mech and he told me to ignore milage on V6 since they are rock solid. He told me to look if it is well maintained and go for it if it is. So far i have no regrets.

Most buyers will have a problem with high milage. You need to sell to an alfisti who knows what he gets with your cup. Might take a while but i am sure there is people out there.
If your car would be over here i would`ve bought it straight away. :lol:

Edit: As mentioned by others: You don`t really want to sell that fantastic car. You will regret it. 6k is a relative small sum compared to the 20+k you will have to invest into a montreal. Postpone your projekt for a little and save up another 6k. The harder thing will be restraining yourself throwing all you save at the cup. :D
 
#40 ·
You can't ignore mileage on any car, just because the engine is good for interstellar mileage doesn't mean the rest of the car will be. All bushes would be well worn and if on rubber should have been through a couple of sets. The body flexes and this will loosen the car up. New cars feel tight not just because the engine but because of everything else including a welded body which loses strength due to flex. Personally £8k for an older car with well over 100k on the clock doesn't sound feasible to me and it could take months/years to sell, the 100k mark is still a significant issue for many people end of the day most people want a car with as lower mileage as possible for the best possible price. As a private sale I would expect to save a small packet on dealer prices.
 
#43 ·
true, you cannot ignore the mileage on any car...but who on earth buys an Alfa with their heads. Mine had 100k exactly when I bought it..but I probably only found that out when I got home..I only went to take a look and didnt expect to come home with it :lol: most buy GTV's as projects/weekenders rather than daily drives.

I say, if you really want to sell her, list her at 6-7k, someone out there will buy with their heart..it just might take a while. Thats how I bought mine and love it with all the niggles.
 
#44 ·
Not sure what all the fuss is about! I'm talking about the premium the Cup is getting, how can a few body parts add £2k to to £3k car!

I'm not a fan of the GTV, I was after a Spider as company car back in 1999, but the rule was no soft tops ! I then suggested a GTV, thinking it would meet the 4 seat rule (just) unfortunately it fell to the 4/5 door rule. I eventually got a 7 seater to carry the kids around

I've digressed....

Anyway the Cup in my opinion was a marketing ploy to sell more cars.

Fiat did the same at the end of the line of the Fiat Turbo. A year later, you could pick up a brand new special edition for £15k on the road at least £7k cheaper than list!!!!

To summarise, I don't think Cups are worth the high values suggested in this thread, but as someone else said, The value is what anyone will pay for it :thumbs:
 
#47 ·
RW you have to understand why the Cup was built and assembled by Pininfarina not Alfa, the GTV Cup was a homologation special to allow gentleman racers to form a race classification for the GTV.

The Cups are not a part bin end of the line special ;)
and 120 has had about 40k miles driven by me mostly on motorways :D

But she has some track history, she's been round Croft twice and Aintree :)

Bloody hell I'm talking myself in to buying her back :cry:
 
#49 ·
+ 1, in this market i honestly believe that you will do well to get £5.5K IMO as for a quick sale £4-4.5K! I remember the BigDog sold his for less than it was worth last year or so! At the moment and for the forseeable future big engined cars are almost worthless and have residual values that are truly shocking.
I,ll strike you guys off the list for a test drive then?:lol:
 
#56 ·
I think that alfa did miss out on creating somthing really different with the cup. They could have uprated the suspenssion,had the 3.2 engine and maybe 330mm brakes.
That said the cups are a cut above normal gtv,s even if they are just plastic and a plaque in some opinions. Park a standard gtv next to a cup and all the interest will be in the limited edition version. You missed out wet look alloys on your list by the way.:p:lol:
 
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