F1 2008

Originally Posted by HSTDriver

he's as quick as ANYONE on the grid.
Sadly I think his time at Ferrari destroyed him. He might well have earned good money being number 2 to MS, but at what cost?

IMO a pre-Ferrari Barichello would have mopped the floor with Button.

No.. he is not as quick as anyone else(yet alone Button)

Anyone that goes in a team with the intention to be someone else's lap dog doesn't deserve ANY respect.

A pre-ferrari Rubens was a loooong time ago BUT was still over hyped

Originally Posted by PeterWolf

No.. he is not as quick as anyone else(yet alone Button)

Anyone that goes in a team with the intention to be someone else's lap dog doesn't deserve ANY respect.

A pre-ferrari Rubens was a loooong time ago BUT was still over hyped

When Rubens arrived at a weekend and got the Ferrari set up quickly, i.e. in fridays session, he was on the pace of MS all weekend.
I think his problems lie more in getting the setup right, than having any lack of talent, but that's a part of an F1 driver's job, so that's no excuse.

When he was at Stewart GP he seemed to enjoy the atmosphere and his performances in a very average car, were sometimes stunning to say the least.

Button's biggest problem is his off track lack of nous which has caused him to go from one bad car, to another bad car, to another bad car.

I think Button will eventually go down as one of F1's wasted talents, he could have been half decent (not a great, by any means) but was never able to get in the right place, at the right time.

Originally Posted by HSTDriver

I think Button will eventually go down as one of F1's wasted talents, he could have been half decent (not a great, by any means) but was never able to get in the right place, at the right time.

I agree with that, it is a possibility for Button but not for RB(because you need talent to become a wasted talent

Originally Posted by PeterWolf

I agree with that, it is a possibility for Button but not for RB(because you need talent to become a wasted talent

I think RB will be happy with having the most GP starts in history (assuming he finishes next year ) and currently being the 5th highest career points scorer in F1 history

Here we go ( slicks in action)

Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber (B) 1:19.042 73
2. Button Honda (B) 1:19.155 65
3. de la Rosa McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:19.712 48
4. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1:20.083 73
5. Piquet Renault (B) 1:20.366 66
6. Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:20.615 97
7. Paffett McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:20.638 50
8. Webber Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:20.682 65
9. Gene Ferrari (B) 1:20.832 67
10. Conway Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:20.927 87
11. Vettel Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:21.086 45
12. Rossiter Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:21.246 71
13. Glock Toyota (B) 1:21.336 69
14. Fisichella Force India-Ferrari (B) 1:21.424 41
15. Hulkenberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:21.556 28
16. Montagny Force India-Ferrari (B) 1:21.559 65
17. Nakajima Williams-Toyota (B) 1:21.586 33
18. Asmer BMW-Sauber (B) 1:21.962 57
19. Kobayashi Toyota (B) 1:22.186 111
20. Villa BMW-Sauber (B) 1:23.583 53

"The Italian's day had got off to a disappointing start when he spun early on, but luckily he did not cause any damage to the car."

And here is the shopping bag of excuses from fisi :

"It's my first day back in the car nearly two months after the last race in Brazil, plus my first with another car and new engine, and of course without the electronics," he said. "Considering this I am quite happy about how the day went though.

"We did have a couple of issues so I didn't run as much as I would have liked; with new tyres I had a problem with the hydraulic pressure, and when I tried out the slick tyres there was a problem on the diff so we didn't get a proper idea of how the tyres will work. All the same I do think it's been a positive day though and a good basis for tomorrow."

Originally Posted by PeterWolf

Here we go ( slicks in action)

Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber (B) 1:19.042 73
2. Button Honda (B) 1:19.155 65
3. de la Rosa McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:19.712 48
4. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1:20.083 73
5. Piquet Renault (B) 1:20.366 66
6. Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:20.615 97
7. Paffett McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:20.638 50
8. Webber Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:20.682 65
9. Gene Ferrari (B) 1:20.832 67
10. Conway Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:20.927 87
11. Vettel Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:21.086 45
12. Rossiter Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:21.246 71
13. Glock Toyota (B) 1:21.336 69
14. Fisichella Force India-Ferrari (B) 1:21.424 41
15. Hulkenberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:21.556 28
16. Montagny Force India-Ferrari (B) 1:21.559 65
17. Nakajima Williams-Toyota (B) 1:21.586 33
18. Asmer BMW-Sauber (B) 1:21.962 57
19. Kobayashi Toyota (B) 1:22.186 111
20. Villa BMW-Sauber (B) 1:23.583 53

"The Italian's day had got off to a disappointing start when he spun early on, but luckily he did not cause any damage to the car."

And here is the shopping bag of excuses from fisi :

"It's my first day back in the car nearly two months after the last race in Brazil, plus my first with another car and new engine, and of course without the electronics," he said. "Considering this I am quite happy about how the day went though.

"We did have a couple of issues so I didn't run as much as I would have liked; with new tyres I had a problem with the hydraulic pressure, and when I tried out the slick tyres there was a problem on the diff so we didn't get a proper idea of how the tyres will work. All the same I do think it's been a positive day though and a good basis for tomorrow."

Well Buttons doing well

Originally Posted by Kevin Slegg

Well Buttons doing well

And Heidfeld is doing better (but thank you for pointing that out Kev)

and Alonso is testing slicks & no tc.......on his playstation

which circuit was this on?

Jerez.

Button seems very confident that Honda will make a big step forward next year, and win races in 2009. I know we've heard it before, but with Brawn on board you would expect Honda to be at the sharp end of the grid.

Actually..I detect JB hedging his bets there..saying you will do well in 2009 is the perfect self let off for doing crap in 2008. He should be saying "We aim to win in 2008" lets see how far we get...and saying 2009 makes it seem comfortably far away as well.

I need to hear 100% positivity from JB..you'd never have heard Schumacher say that (now someone will prove he did say it..no doubt ). Less Comfort Zone Jenson please!!!!

AlfaLincs

Yeah, I know what you mean, but then he was very positive about 2007 and look what happened

Day 2

1. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:19.371 73
2. Coulthard Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:19.421 80
3. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:19.761 97
4. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1:19.779 87
5. de la Rosa McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:19.887 62
6. Piquet Renault (B) 1:19.982 71
7. Klien Force India-Ferrari (B) 1:20.187 86
8. Vettel Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:20.398 57
9. Fisichella Force India-Ferrari (B) 1:20.470 102
10. Kubica BMW-Sauber (B) 1:20.487 118
11. Glock Toyota (B) 1:20.523 54
12. Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:20.533 75
13. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:20.671 66
14. Zuber Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:20.897 109
15. Webber Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:20.944 41
16. Hulkenberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:21:068 67
17. Davidson Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:21:076 74
18. Barrichello Honda (B) 1:21:184 103
19. Kobayashi Toyota (B) 1:21:699 118
20. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber (B) 1:22.875 93

Well done DC.....will Klien win the India seat?

Do you know who was running with slicks vs grooves?

Originally Posted by BigFoot

Do you know who was running with slicks vs grooves?

DC , hamilton,piquet, de la rosa,fisi,Klein,Heidfeld on slicks
I'm trying to find out for the rest of the field...but most are driving without TC

I think most of the drivers are trying slicks out at some point of the tests.....but i have no idea
on what tyres they've set the times. I think that Hamilton & DC times were set on slicks