F1 2009

True

They could call it the GP of Carnage

Originally Posted by andyroo75

These new tracks all appear a little boring to me.

I think the one in Turkey (is it? - the one wiht the double apex curve) is good.

Originally Posted by PC7671

If you look at abu dhabi and valencia its like they've pressed 2 on the photocopier and just thought that will do.

Here they are, Valencia on the left and Yas Island (Abu Dhabi) on the right

Not that similar

Originally Posted by BigFoot

Not that similar

Not when looked at as total plans, but they (and many modern circuits in general) share many features, particular corner angles, and strategic placement of corners to maximise braking area (and allegedly overtaking opportunity)

There's nothing 'natural' or flowing about modern circuits, since they're designed on a computer screen.

Real circuits like Brands Hatch, Spa, Suzuka etc were all worked around what mother nature had given to start with

One thing I don't understand is the Hungaroring. That track is completely pointless.

Fighting talk from Jenson
Newslinky

Originally Posted by BigFoot

One thing I don't understand is the Hungaroring. That track is completely pointless.

I don't know, I well remember Damon Hill in an Arrows giving Schumacher a driving lesson around it

Originally Posted by BigFoot

Fighting talk from Jenson
Newslinky

Lets hope so

Originally Posted by Gary Slegg

I don't know, I well remember Damon Hill in an Arrows giving Schumacher a driving lesson around it

Yeah, shame he only bagged one championship

Originally Posted by BigFoot

Yeah, shame he only bagged one championship

Yeah - now remind me, who did he beat

Ok, ok.

Originally Posted by Gary Slegg

Yeah - now remind me, who did he beat

He struggled his way past a rookie teammate and a year old Ferrari, and still almost didn't win the title

Originally Posted by HSTDriver

and still almost didn't win the title

If you almost didn't win, doesn't that mean he won

To be honest I wish I almost didn't win the lottery on Saturday, and if only I almost didn't have a night of passion with Keira Knightly and her four identical twin sisters I'd be a happy man

Jenson not quite as positive as i'd like to hear at the Honda launch...he's too damned English

Not like Nikki Lauda who appeared in full racing kit early on raceday in James Hunts hotel bedroom whilst Hunt was still dozing in bed and announced "Today I am going to win ze world championship"

Well he didn't as it happened, but thats how to outpsyche the opposition..BE POSITIVE!!!

AlfaLincs

Originally Posted by Gary Slegg

If you almost didn't win, doesn't that mean he won

True, but lets be honest here, he had no real opposition. The title was his to lose, and he very nearly did that.


I'm glad Hill won his title, after the years he put into the sport, but he's probably one of the weakest champions we've seen, TBH.

But Hill didn't have many years into the sport, he started in F1 cars very late at the age of 32....and as for saying "but he's probably one of the weakest champions we've seen, TBH."

I honestly havn't the faintest idea what you mean by this. Its simply not borne out by the facts. I recall Damon Hill as one of the neatest and consistent fast drivers I have ever seen, and at his best he was blisteringly fast.

Bythe time he joined Arrows he had 67 F1 races behind him (inc driving a duff Brabham) 20 pole positions, 21 wins, and 19 fastest laps

What is weak ab