F1 season 2005

These are the results after today's qualifying session in Melbourne. The mid session rainstorm (red flag after Shumi qualified) messed things up a little bit

1. (12) Fisichella Renault (M) 1:33.171
2. (9) Trulli Toyota (M) 1:35.270 + 2.099
3. (7) Webber Williams-BMW (M) 1:36.717 + 3.546
4. (11) Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas (M) 1:36.984 + 3.813
5. (8) Klien Red Bull-Cosworth (M) 1:37.486 + 4.315
6. (10) Coulthard Red Bull-Cosworth (M) 1:38.320 + 5.149
7. (6) Heidfeld Williams-BMW (M) 1:39.717 + 6.546
8. (5) Button BAR-Honda (M) 1:41.512 + 8.341
9. (3) Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota (B) 1:44.357 + 11.186
10. (19) Raikkonen McLaren-Mercedes (M) 1:44.997 + 11.826
11. (20) Montoya McLaren-Mercedes (M) 1:45.325 + 12.154
12. (18) Barrichello Ferrari (B) 1:45.481 + 12.310
13. (4) Monteiro Jordan-Toyota (B) 1:46.846 + 13.675
14. (17) Alonso Renault (M) 1:47.708 + 14.537
15. (1) Albers Minardi-Cosworth (B) 1:49.230 + 16.059
16. (2) Freisacher Minardi-Cosworth (B) 1:50.864 + 17.693
17. (16) R.Schumacher Toyota (M) 1:51.495 + 18.324
18. (14) M.Schumacher Ferrari (B) 1:57.931 + 24.760
19. (13) Massa Sauber-Petronas (M) No Time
20. (15) Sato BAR-Honda (M) No Time

Good. Glad to hear it. Anything which will mean more overtaking is good news.
Maybe they should do what the Eurocars do, random grid positions, but the race is split into 2, whatever your starting position for the first race, you get the opposite starting position for the second

Just realised that this year overall qualifying time is an average of your time from each of the qualifying sessions too, so these are meaningful figures.
How do they work out people who didn't get a time in one of the sessions though?

Well Sato Crashed on his warm up lap .....I thought Massa finished his lap just took forever as he was on slicks in a major down pour
Presumably he either pulled into the pits or stopped by the track some where for safety reasons as I did not see him crash...but Schumacher flashed by him and moments later Massa's team radio him to warm that Schumacher was coming and to let him go by...but it was too late


Here in Melbourne we have have a "little" drought for quite a will but this summer has been rather cold and lots and lots of rain...on one day recently we has 20% of our average rainfall

I presume they will be last regardless of the lap they do tomorrow. That session now is a total waste of time, and if the drivers have got any sense, they'll just trundle round and not waste fuel/tyres. (except anyone who is very close to the guy infront, which isn't many!)

I'll be watching the race live. Should be interesting to see what Ferrari do now! What really gets up my nose is Minardi finally deciding to use their 2005 spec aero kit after all that!!!!

tell me about it, i suppose it got his team a bit of extra airtime tho!!

what do you think of the same set of tyres rule, i must say i'll miss some of the pitlane drama!

Originally Posted by posty

what do you think of the same set of tyres rule, i must say i'll miss some of the pitlane drama!

What happens if you use wets in qualifying and drys (dries?) in the race?

If you were a middlish team, could you use wets to qualify on somewhere like Bahrain where it's 95% likely to be dry? I know it wouldn't be a great qualifying time, but if the wets would hang together for the couple of qualifying laps, you could bin them and start the race on new dry tyres.

But wouldn't your qualifying position be lower down?

OMG, does that mean win it all Schumacher is at the back might even stay up to watch it then

Originally Posted by Rosbird1

OMG, does that mean win it all Schumacher is at the back might even stay up to watch it then

I suspect so, unless the Ferrari is something like 30 seconds a lap faster than anyone else,then Yes he is going to be right at the back with the Dreaded Minardis

Originally Posted by mojo_jojo

I'll be watching the race live. Should be interesting to see what Ferrari do now! What really gets up my nose is Minardi finally deciding to use their 2005 spec aero kit after all that!!!!

It seems as if the Minardi F1 drivers had never driven the car with the 2005 Aero Package prior to yestedays first practise sesion

It wasn't as exciting As I hoped it would be

Good for Fisichella
great 2nd place for Rubens too.. didn't expect it, from where he started..
bad luck for Michael.. I think he got a little bit too eager once he realised he was heading to score points.. oh well, gives him the chance to start with a new engine in Malaysia

Originally Posted by Wimster

It wasn't as exciting As I hoped it would be

Good for Fisichella
great 2nd place for Rubens too.. didn't expect it, from where he started..
bad luck for Michael.. I think he got a little bit too eager once he realised he was heading to score points.. oh well, gives him the chance to start with a new engine in Malaysia

Fiddling at the edges with the rules will not make F1 Exciting .

Only continuous dog fights for postion will help F1...but the current rules only make passing even harder.

What I find fascinating is that people actually pay real money to watch F1...No on second thoughts, only the brain dead would pay good money to actually watch F1 live...so it must be the other attractions

Originally Posted by Stori

Only continuous dog fights for postion will help F1...but the current rules only make passing even harder.

Alonso had a great race and overtook a couple of cars ....





.... on the track!

And finished third, chapeau!

Originally Posted by selespeed

Alonso had a great race and overtook a couple of cars ....





.... on the track!

And finished third, chapeau!

But as they say..." One swallow, does not make a summer"

Alonso over took a few in the pits...such as Mark Weber and presumably David Couthard but not much parssing on the track for the front runners.