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Old 30-04-2008   #1 (Post Link)
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Best Ipod Connection for a 159

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Recently purchased a year old 159 without the Blue&Me gizmo and am looking for practical advice on the best option that will connect to the standard stereo. I'm only interested in direct connections as have previously wasted money on the FM transmitters which have never been very good.

I've seen the Denison mentioned a few times but would value opinion on others. Also any information on good places for fitting in either the Reading or Bournemouth areas.

I don't really want to spend more than £250 on parts and fitting.

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I have the Dension fitted in my GT - superb! £130 including a mounting bracket for my iPod. Easily fitted it myself but not sure how accessible the 159 is.
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Originally Posted by nigelti View Post
Hi,

Recently purchased a year old 159 without the Blue&Me gizmo and am looking for practical advice on the best option that will connect to the standard stereo. I'm only interested in direct connections as have previously wasted money on the FM transmitters which have never been very good.

I've seen the Denison mentioned a few times but would value opinion on others. Also any information on good places for fitting in either the Reading or Bournemouth areas.

I don't really want to spend more than £250 on parts and fitting.

Thanks!
Nigel
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I recently bought a used 159 too with the standard CD player. I used an IPod adaptor bought directly from Alfa Romeo which plugs straight into the back of the standard stereo. I use a 2nd generation Ipod Nano, which rests in the glove compartment. You can fit it outside using a separate cradle which is available on ebay etc.

Part no: 71804065 , cost = about £87, fitting = £0, easy to do yourself, however you will need the stereo removal tool, which I did not have so took it to a local Car audio place who removed the stereo for £2!! (To confuse things Alfa have another Adaptor for £150 which I did not go for).

See the below link for excellent fitting instructions, just ignore the part numbers and use the one I provided above :
Alfa Romeo forum: Fitting an ipod to a 159 or Brera

Basically, when using the above adapotor, your Ipod works as a 10 CD changer, each playlist being a CD. You need to create some playlists (I have created about 8 for now including the default ones on the Ipod). Once fitted you just select the source to CHANGER and use the up/down arrows either on the stereo or the steering wheel control to change playlist (i.e. virtual CD). One point thought, the stereo will not display the song names etc. only CD number (i.e. playlist number) and Track number. If you want to see the song details all the time, I would suggest you mount the Ipod outside. Again, the display on the Ipod is quite small (display is different from the standard Ipod display) and not always backlit and so reading the song names can be really difficult when driving, which is why I chose to leave it inside the glovebox.. this way no one knows I have an Ipod lurking about!!
One problem I have faced, and many others who have used the Alfa Ipod adaptor, is that when you are playing songs from the Ipod via the Changer, and you turn the ignition off, the display always goes back to CD1 (playlist 1) when the engine is started again although the last song that was being played before switching off still plays with the correct track number, from the correct playlist. Personally am not bothered by this.
The way around this is: Before switching the ignition off, change your source to either TUNER or the normal CD. When you start the car again, you can reselect the source to CHANGER and the playing resumes from where you left off displaying the correct playlist number. It will all become obvious when you fit it. Took me literally 15 minutes for the whole job, 1 torx screw to remove from the glove box, Stereo removed, supplied adaptor cable fitted to back of stereo and routed by hand easily into gap within glove box (did not need any tool to guide the cable), plugged in adaptor, taped it using supplied plastic velcro strip to back of glove box as indicated in picture.
In my opinion, this is the cheapest and best option. I did some extensive research before deciding on this, cause Denision etc. did not seem to be compatible. I know it works, if it doesnt you can always retrun it back to Alfa Romeo. You can get the part from any AR dealer stores department.
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Dension make the Alfa one.
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Dension make the Alfa one.
i know but its not exactly compatible with the 159. Spoke to Denison before I decided on the OEM adaptor. Plus the steering wheel controls dont work with the Denison...
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Odd... steering wheel controls are fine in my GT...

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i know but its not exactly compatible with the 159. Spoke to Denison before I decided on the OEM adaptor. Plus the steering wheel controls dont work with the Denison...
this is the reply I got to my query regarding the "DensIon" Ipod adaptor.

"Thanks for your email. The only option currently available for your car is the Dension ice>Link FM Modulator. The difference between this and the radio specific iPod Kit is that you cannot control your iPod from your radio or steering wheel controls. But it does charge your iPod as the ice>Link Plus does. On the plus side these are about ?30 less than the radio specific ice>Link Plus kits. Also please do not confuse these with FM Transmitters that are of inferior quality to the hard wired Dension ice>Link FM Modulator. The Dension ice>Link FM Modulator is a hard wired product meaning that all interference is eliminated and there is no bleed-through from local radio stations. We used to sell the cheap FM Transmitters but had a returns rate of close on 70%, so beware! View the ice>Link FM Modulator hear: Dension ice>Link FM Modulator | Dension ice>Link Plus iPod Car Kit | iPod Car Kit Direct *Please note the cradle is incompatible with the new iPods. Also if you do not want to damage your dash by mounting the iPod cradle directly to it, we recommend using one of the damage-free mounting brackets specific to your car make and model. These can be found under the iPod Mounting section of our website: View these here: iPod Mounting | Mount iPod in Car | Brodit ProClip & Dashmount Mounting Bracket If you need any further help, please feel free to contact us.
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I'm getting the Parrot MK6100 (look at their website) fitted by Halfords today. It's 170.00 fitted but but can be paid up over 10 mths at only a 10% charge!
The control dongle is a little great rubberized unit - placed anywhere you like (that'll be the Bluetooth kicking in!) and it comes with a little LCD the size of a USB which is wired (coming from the back of the radio) but is discreet and it reads all of your MP3's and Contacts Phone list (Bluetooth again!)! It's voice activated with various volumes, colours and other bitsnpieces that come with it cancelling your radio/cd and it tells you who's calling.
Just thot I'd add this to the mix.
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anyone know if the mk6100 parrot will work with the satnav head units??? is it the same link cable as the standard units
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I fitted a Dension to an Alfa Brera today with the same standard head unit and it works fine, full steering wheel control aswell
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I fitted a Dension to an Alfa Brera today with the same standard head unit and it works fine, full steering wheel control aswell
Does it display the id3 tags for the songs (i.e. song titles etc. on the head unit display) ?
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Hi
Unfortunately not, just the track number
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I fitted the Denison Gateway 100 on my 07 147 recently. The dash display doesn't display the song infos on my model.
Steering wheel volume,up/down/mute works fine. The mute button works as a "pause". Track up/down works fine. However, I'm an iPod junkie and my 30G 4Gen iPod is almost full, that means if I'm listening to Abba's Arrivrial album (letter A+A) and I want to listen to U2's Zooropa (letter U+Z); Im Denison's "album" mode I'll have to press "down" a few thousand times to get from A-Z. Same goes for "Artist" mode. I can't make playlists or I'll end up with 100 songs just for AC/DC alone in "heavy metal".

The solution I find best is to set the Denison to the usual iPod click wheel interface. Hope it helps.
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Am I correct in saying that there is no hard-wire from the steering wheel controls to the radio/head unit and that it actually is infrared? This I'm guessing will add extra cost (requiring a sensor gizzmo) if changing the radio!? - Alfa 159 SW '08.
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liased with Blaupunkt (the radio/head unit in my factory fit '57 build 159) who stated it IS infrared from steering wheel to radio and they have not built a sensor for THEIR other head units but will in the near future. I was going to put in the their Hamburg model but obviously will back out now and go ahead with the Parrot kit (see previous entry). ...shame!
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In the end I went for the Connect2 cable which seems to work fine with the same foibles as the dension (playlists etc.). Nigel
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I fitted a Dension to an Alfa Brera today with the same standard head unit and it works fine, full steering wheel control aswell
Hi. What dension kit did you fit?
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In the end I went for the Connect2 cable which seems to work fine with the same foibles as the dension (playlists etc.). Nigel

Is this the one that is/was on ebay, if so I had this and it didn't work after two units were tried.
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Anyone have any info on the blaupunkt Bluetooth/USB adaptor kit. Blaupunkt list it as only being compatible with aftermaket head units although i have been reliably informed that it works with the Alfa Connect Nav + Unit. I'd be interested to know if anyone has one of these, if so is it any good. Do i need to use the supplied mic for the bluetooth or will everything work through the head unit Phone system. Also do i retain steering wheel controls including voice dial and telephone answer dial button on steering wheel even if using it through B/tooth connected through phone. Any idea if I can stream music via b/tooth to the head unit also. So many questions.....If only everything was simple.
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See above post. The unit is a Blaupunkt Bluetooth USB Interface 7 607 545 500 part number.
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My local dealer has withdrawn the Blaupunkt unit as they were having too many probs with them.
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