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hi i've done it,i've taken the plunge a 97 2.0 gtv lusso is now on my mum's drive waiting to have my insurance changed over. I'm on a budget so a sub £1k ebay job it is. This could go two ways... i'm hoping it's good. rocker cover gaskets weeping a bit, shouldn't be too dear, cambelt was done 30k ago so i'm thinking this is going to be the first job. Has anyone got a rough idea how much this will be?? there's a good specialist in Fishponds, Alfanet, so i'm told, can anyone back this up?? Now i'm prone to bouts of stupidity so is the growling sound coming from the back end the nice exhaust note i'm hoping it is, or is it the rear axle/diff completley knackered??!! or is it rampant paranoia??? can anyone give me some general pointers on what to get checked out? one of the previous mot's mentions a welded rear wishbone is this easy/cheap to change?? all help greatly appreciated, thanks neil
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Originally Posted by peelyjones View Post
hi i've done it,i've taken the plunge a 97 2.0 gtv lusso is now on my mum's drive waiting to have my insurance changed over. I'm on a budget so a sub £1k ebay job it is. This could go two ways... i'm hoping it's good. rocker cover gaskets weeping a bit, shouldn't be too dear, cambelt was done 30k ago so i'm thinking this is going to be the first job. Has anyone got a rough idea how much this will be?? there's a good specialist in Fishponds, Alfanet, so i'm told, can anyone back this up?? Now i'm prone to bouts of stupidity so is the growling sound coming from the back end the nice exhaust note i'm hoping it is, or is it the rear axle/diff completley knackered??!! or is it rampant paranoia??? can anyone give me some general pointers on what to get checked out? one of the previous mot's mentions a welded rear wishbone is this easy/cheap to change?? all help greatly appreciated, thanks neil

Hi a welded rear wishbone doesn't sound good as far as I know you shouldn't weld wishbones as for the rocker gasket shop around and find the best deal go on line have patients the GTV is front wheel drive so the growling if its bad could be a wheel bearing which will sound a little louder when cornering. I do my own cam belt changes so I have no idea how much a garage would charge but I have heard three to four hundred they change more than the cam belt, As for checks for MOT its basically the same as any other car - brakes- lights - emission - rust and so on, See how she runs and you will get a feel if something is wrong
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many thanks put my mind at rest on a couple of things there. might have a go at the rocker myself and a wheel bearing isn't the end of the world cost wise, thanks mate
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Hi and welcome, bit concerned they have welded a wishbone, are you sure they haven't welded the rear alloy subframe?

These tend to wear through if certain rear bushes are worn which can then cause steel to rub against the alloy frame.

Best to take a picture and upload to the gtv tech lounge as you will get a good response in there.
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to be honest i'm only going off what's on the advisory sheet i'm going to book it in to alfanet in bristol and get them to give it the once over to see if i've bought a good/bad one, thanks for the heads up though cheers neil
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Welded rear "wishbone" is probably the spring pan, as they are prone to rotting through. The main structure of the wishbone is tubular but they are covered in something like 1.5mm formed steel to become the seat for the spring.

If its just the sheet that has been welded and not the tube, then as long as the new metal has been welded in properly and all the old rust removed it shouldn't be a problem. I dare say it'll probably be stronger than most of the 10 year old spring pans out there, all those who were first to Powerflex them & have therefore never had a cause to replace the full spring pan, they will all be well rotten these days and more often than not it doesn't get noticed on an MOT. We've bought a few GTV breakers where the spring seat on the spring pan has failed and the back corner of the car has dropped onto the tyre.




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To demonstrate what Dan is saying above, i reckon this is the "Wishbone" the tester is talking about, properly known as the springpan.
http://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/alfa-...-shocking.html (Want to see something shocking?)
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I know Dan I was properly shocked and thankful on seeing and replacing.
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Blimey - peelyjones must be feeling really worried now.

Springpans:-

- the ones on the GTV which I had polybushed 8 years ago are fine and they are now 14 years old. It has been outside in rain/snow and salt for all of those years. Had it up on a hoist 6 months ago - rust on the outside/inside but solid.

- the ones on the Spider are original but polybushed two months ago so are 11 years old. Again - saw them when on a hoist last week - scraped, dug and hammered - all sound.
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- the ones on the GTV which I had polybushed 8 years ago are fine and they are now 14 years old. It has been outside in rain/snow and salt for all of those years. Had it up on a hoist 6 months ago - rust on the outside/inside but solid.

- the ones on the Spider are original but polybushed two months ago so are 11 years old. Again - saw them when on a hoist last week - scraped, dug and hammered - all sound.
Only saying what I see - a big pile of rotten spring pans sitting under our bearing-press, and a shortage of good ones to shot-blast, powder-coat and fit polybushes to.
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at nearly 300 quid a side you can see why these dont get changed
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Interesting - talking to my local indy they do not seem to find spring pans a problem - they didn't polybush the original Spider ones - just bushed a pair they had handy and swapped. I assume "my" ones are now "handy" and will be passed on with new bushes in due course.
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I reckon about 50% of the GTV springpans I see are knackered....there is what I assume is supposed to be a drain-hole in them that gets blocked with road grit etc....hence water sits in the pans......
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