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View Poll Results: What do you think of the 156 Crosswagon
Yeah, like it, love it, gimme one 2 7.69%
Dunno 4 15.38%
:Eek: What is that? No thank you. 13 50.00%
Well Nice try, but..... 7 26.92%
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Old 18-02-2004   #1 (Post Link)
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Mooney Alfa off road?!? Crosswagon

AMSTERDAM - Alfisti must have rubbed their eyes twice, when seeing the new Crosswagon. It is an old tric: get a stationwagon, in this case a 156 SW, raise it a little, give it 4 wd and you have got a SUV-alternative.


The Alfa Romeo Crosswagon will have a 150 Bhp strong 1.9 MultiJet JTD engine. And perhaps a 2.4 JTD 20V engine with 170 Bhp.

http://www.nu.nl/img.db?277994+s(350x233!)

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Re: Alfa off road?!? Crosswagon

Looks really stupid but if Audi and Volvo can do it why not Alfa.

Alfa need 4WD so we can get a 4WD 147 GTA
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Re: Alfa off road?!? Crosswagon

Another Half-Wit drive to clog up our roads

In reality a rear wheel drive GTA is what most people want.


I think I would actually prefer the Holden Adventra with a 5.7 litre V8 and 4 wheel drive
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This whole crossover thing is a marketing led stupidity...

If people need 4wd for off road use then they should buy a proper off roader...
If they "space" then buy a people carrier...

Whatever twonk invented "lifestyle" needs to be shot.. but not before being run over by an example of each horror he/she has unleashed upon us!
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I hate 'em SUV's! I hate 'em I hate 'em I hate 'em! SUV's and everything related are for men with tiny pipi's and low self-esteem! Buy a lorry or a tractor instead if you want to impress all other road users! WRAAAAAAH!

Of course the above is nothing more than my own humble opinion. I AM willing to use force in trying to convince SUV owners of their wrong however!
 
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Re: Alfa off road?!? Crosswagon

Originally Posted by Stori
I think I would actually prefer the Holden Adventra with a 5.7 litre V8 and 4 wheel drive
It looks like an overgrown Fiat Palio.
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Some of the official pics:
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Please Alfa, don't!!!
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Re: Alfa off road?!? Crosswagon

Originally Posted by Antonio Chico
It looks like an overgrown Fiat Palio.
Welll I am not sure that the Holden Adventra looks like an overgrown Palio but the FIAT would probably fit in the back as a spare

And you could drag the FIAT around all day if it was tied to the back even if the FIAT was trying to get away
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I won't disagree on that!

Just in case, I didn't diss the Holden, I just found it quite like the Palio.
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Originally Posted by Antonio Chico
I won't disagree on that!

Just in case, I didn't diss the Holden, I just found it quite like the Palio.
You can say what you like about the Holden Its a free world...........Well except for the Religious,Communist and Fascist states where they tell you what to think and do..........
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In fact, I wouldn't mind having and HSV.
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Re: Alfa off road?!? Crosswagon

Originally Posted by Antonio Chico
Please Alfa, don't!!!
The end is nigh
Since Sprints,33's,75's & 155's became scarce the magic of Alfa has gone out of the window,people posting on here may be enthusiasts,but 95% of 147/156 etc drivers could be driving a Mundano Ghia 1.6 Laser for all they care about the marque.
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Re: Alfa off road?!? Crosswagon

It is certainly not a true alfa - in spirit!
But there are too many dumb-asses out there buying those stupid "cross" vehicles that don't do anything properly - except annoy real drivers!
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Re: Alfa off road?!? Crosswagon

Originally Posted by Bal 2
The end is nigh
Since Sprints,33's,75's & 155's became scarce the magic of Alfa has gone out of the window,people posting on here may be enthusiasts,but 95% of 147/156 etc drivers could be driving a Mundano Ghia 1.6 Laser for all they care about the marque.
Luckily I'm one of the other 5% then. Only an enthusiast would buy an Alfa in this country but I think I know what you mean. I've owned a Sud, various Sprints, 155 and now my 156 so I guess you could call me an enthusiast.


Since switching to the new AO I have noticed a distinct lack of posts on the 147/156 section but the 155 section always looks busy - more enthusiasts over there ?

Personally I can't see the point of those cross type vehicles either. I have a 4x4 as well but thats because the roads are really bad here and you need it for the dunes at the week end
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Re: Alfa off road?!? Crosswagon

Hmm, maybe a set of GTA 5-hole wheels can improve the look a little.
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I like it
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Re: Alfa off road?!? Crosswagon

Muppets! - But then, if it helps to sell the alfas, then why not, I certainly wouldnt have it, perhaps it wont be long efore someone gets hold of one and lowers it back down, chucks in the GTA lump then bobs ya uncle, instant 4x4 GTA
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Re: Alfa off road?!? Crosswagon

Just another 4WD that`ll never go off road and just clog up the roads during the school run

C`mon Alfa stick to what you know best and leave the shopping trolley/school run motors to BMW and the like..................
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Re: Alfa off road?!? Crosswagon

Originally Posted by alfaowner
perhaps it wont be long efore someone gets hold of one and lowers it back down, chucks in the GTA lump then bobs ya uncle, instant 4x4 GTA
I know a couple of diesel van lovers who would love to do it
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Originally Posted by alfaowner
Muppets! - But then, if it helps to sell the alfas, then why not, I certainly wouldnt have it, perhaps it wont be long efore someone gets hold of one and lowers it back down, chucks in the GTA lump then bobs ya uncle, instant 4x4 GTA
SHort term this may be OK but I suspect Alfa would be better off getting its "Act together" rather than just pumping out variations on a theme.

1) improve Quality control- have genuine, usable specifications to which component manufacturers are required to conform. would be helpfull.

2) Create a viable second hand market. Alfa have such poor resale value due to used image that only the enthusiast is willing to purchase them.

3) Have an entusiastic dealer/service network

4)Maybe have a marketing concept
Current one seems to be Beauty is not enough.... but current Alfa's cannot really be called Beautiful except maybe the standard 147 .
The 147 GTA does not look beautiful unless you like your Girlfriend
to have the muscles of a male body builder



etc.................................



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