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18-06-2008
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Tunbridge wells
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GTV Vrs M3
Hi Ya,
played golf last night with a mate yest that owns an 03 BMW M3 and we had a bit of a race on the way home (think i went over the limit) ;o)... to his and my surprise on a straight road there was nothing in it... bottled out when i got to the corners tho... not bad for an 8 year old...
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18-06-2008
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#2 (Post Link)
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AO Member
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Location: Very darkest Suffolk
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Re: GTV Vrs M3
He probably wasn't trying hard enough....
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18-06-2008
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#3 (Post Link)
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Super Moderator &
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Re: GTV Vrs M3
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18-06-2008
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#4 (Post Link)
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Re: GTV Vrs M3
Originally Posted by Spider95
He probably wasn't trying hard enough....
Hey now... you're forgetting the extra driveline losses and weight of RWD. I'm sure that can account for the 100+hp power deficit of the Alfa! 
Jim, tell your mate he's busted, you know he only has a debadged 325i with an M-sport package.. Explain that the automatic should have given it away before but you didn't realise real M3s don't have those.
After this you should have solved the problem Bigfoot pointed out above.  |
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18-06-2008
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#5 (Post Link)
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Re: GTV Vrs M3
he said he was, plus he's raced most of his life so he knows how to put his foot to the floor..
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18-06-2008
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#6 (Post Link)
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Re: GTV Vrs M3
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18-06-2008
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#7 (Post Link)
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Re: GTV Vrs M3
Originally Posted by JimGTV
Hi Ya,
played golf last night with a mate yest that owns an 03 BMW M3 and we had a bit of a race on the way home (think i went over the limit) ;o)... to his and my surprise on a straight road there was nothing in it... bottled out when i got to the corners tho... not bad for an 8 year old...
I can tell you that he must have a problem if he was absolutely flooring it.
That car is a good second and a half quicker than you to 60. And 338 bhp not to be messed with!
Is your car tweaked? |
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18-06-2008
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#8 (Post Link)
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Re: GTV Vrs M3
Originally Posted by JimGTV
Hi Ya,
bottled out when i got to the corners tho... not bad for an 8 year old...
Very good indeed. Especially at your age.  |
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18-06-2008
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#9 (Post Link)
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Newbie
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Tunbridge wells
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Re: GTV Vrs M3
no mines just standard, it was from a moving start both in 3rd. he def would have left me from a stand still..
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18-06-2008
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#10 (Post Link)
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Re: GTV Vrs M3
Originally Posted by JimGTV
no mines just standard, it was from a moving start both in 3rd. he def would have left me from a stand still..
Ahh.. well that's were the GTV would be strongest!  |
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18-06-2008
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Re: GTV Vrs M3
sorry, but I find this hard to believe, and just because he has raced most of his life doesn't mean he knows how to drive.
What is the power of a GTV and does anyone know the weight of one?
Was your mates M3 a manual or and SMG, if it was an SMG what setting was the gearbox on, and if the m3 was cold (which i assume it was after a round of golf) the ECU wont let it past 4.5k until it gets to a certain temp, and then only in 500k incs. until it is fully warm.
I don't want to rain on your parade at all, it's just if you are not armed with all the facts then you could end up feeling a little silly if you say it to someone who really knows what they are talking about, and it's things like this that start all the pub talk off.
Rich
Character is what you have left when you've lost everything you can lose.
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18-06-2008
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#12 (Post Link)
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Tunbridge wells
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Re: GTV Vrs M3
wasn't bragging, im fully aware the m3 a very quick car, just thought it was interesting...... its an smg not sure on setting.. done about a mile before we had clear road so not sure on temp...as for the weight of mine not sure but i'm guessing its a lot lighter ??
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18-06-2008
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#13 (Post Link)
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Re: GTV Vrs M3
Sorry Jim, what I said probably sounded quite attacking, and it wasn't meant as such, there is just a lot of dis-information in this world, so I was just after more facts.
Thanks
Rich
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18-06-2008
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#14 (Post Link)
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Re: GTV Vrs M3
no probs Rich..
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18-06-2008
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Re: GTV Vrs M3
Originally Posted by Camp Freddie
Very good indeed. Especially at your age.
Don't worry Freddie, I liked your joke. |
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18-06-2008
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#16 (Post Link)
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Re: GTV Vrs M3
Thanks corbo, I'm glad someone did.  |
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18-06-2008
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#17 (Post Link)
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Re: GTV Vrs M3
ha.. i didn't spot that one lol
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18-06-2008
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#18 (Post Link)
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Re: GTV Vrs M3
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18-06-2008
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Re: GTV Vrs M3
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18-06-2008
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#20 (Post Link)
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Re: GTV Vrs M3
Who cares if the GTV isn't as fast as a M3, it looks a hell of a lot better, and on todays roads can you use all of an M3's performance? Nope, not very often if you value your licence.
But you can use the GTV's looks all of the time.  |
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19-06-2008
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#21 (Post Link)
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Join Date: May 2007
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Re: GTV Vrs M3
Eldest son has a GTV ,the M3 I have is because of him not being able to afford it so I ended up with it , he is always just popping out in it for a spin , as it is a lot faster in the real world driving than the GTV.
If your freind has a SMG II then they are quicker than the manuals !His is either knackered or he cant drive ...at all.
As for driveline loss of RWD I guess it would be = the front wheel scrabble that I experience in my sons GTV ??
Can you use all the GTV's power if you value your licence....nope .in fact can you use the wife's Stilo redlining in each gear ....Nope .............
Last point I agree with
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20-06-2008
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#22 (Post Link)
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Join Date: Feb 2002
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Re: GTV Vrs M3
Wouldacouldashoulda... it's all academic.
Jim kicked his arse, even if M3tey does have 1000bhp more..
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20-06-2008
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#23 (Post Link)
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Join Date: Apr 2005
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Re: GTV Vrs M3
Slap the GTV body on the M3 chassis mmmmmm now there's a thought |
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