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AO menber discount at Red Dot Racing.
My menbership of AO has paid for itself already!
Just spent an hour this afternoon at Red Dot Racing near Watford.
Bumped my 1.6 ts engine from 117bhp and 82lb/f of torque to 131 bhp and 96 lb/f of torque 
£199 for the map and rolling road testing (10% AO member discount).
Job done.
Was told they would give me 40%!!!!! of list price of brake pads and discs too!!!!!
Even gave me a cuppa while I watched.
Car now feels much more responsive and a lot punchier. |
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Re: AO menber discount at Red Dot Racing.
Result!!! so did they give you a rolling road printout at the same time as remapping it? for £199, that seems dirt cheap
Are you listening Nigel 
P.S. MPH nice wheels mate  |
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Re: AO menber discount at Red Dot Racing.
Originally Posted by GhostyDog
Result!!! so did they give you a rolling road printout at the same time as remapping it? for £199, that seems dirt cheap
Are you listening Nigel
P.S. MPH nice wheels mate
Yes I have a before and after print out and no I cant post them as the scanner is in the attic!!!!
Oh and yes the wheels are rather nice- except for the kerbside front which met a scottish granite kerb under guidence of Mrs MPH. About 30% of the rim edge scuffed to hell!!! |
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Re: AO menber discount at Red Dot Racing.
sounds like a great value deal  |
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Re: AO menber discount at Red Dot Racing.
That's a really excellet jump up in power |
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Re: AO menber discount at Red Dot Racing.
Originally Posted by Squadrone Rosso
That's a really excellet jump up in power
IT'll be delivered differently too hopefully, below 3.5K the 1.6 is pretty gutless and only really starts pulling at about 5K  |
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23-01-2008
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Re: AO menber discount at Red Dot Racing.
Can you post the rpms for the figures you quoted, if you get me..
So:
117bhp @ xxxx rpm -> 131bhp @ xxxx rpm
and 82lbft of torque @ xxxx rpm, now 96 lbft of torque @ xxxx rpm
Also, on the 'after' torque curve, at what RPM does torque reach 82lbft and at what RPM does it drop below 82lbft?
Sounds like one hell of a gain you got, 14bhp on a 1.6 T.S. is bloody amazing, was it optimized for higher octane fuel?
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Re: AO menber discount at Red Dot Racing.
make sure you drive it like you stole it for the next couple of days.. let that ECU learn the new parameters |
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23-01-2008
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Re: AO menber discount at Red Dot Racing.
14BHP is excellent btw..
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Re: AO menber discount at Red Dot Racing.
Pulls under that too now!!!!
Looking at the graphs I should be changing gear about 6100rpm max as it drops of from there.
Will try find my scanner so I can post the lines!!!
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Re: AO menber discount at Red Dot Racing.
Originally Posted by Pud237
Can you post the rpms for the figures you quoted, if you get me..
So:
117bhp @ xxxx rpm -> 131bhp @ xxxx rpm
and 82lbft of torque @ xxxx rpm, now 96 lbft of torque @ xxxx rpm
Also, on the 'after' torque curve, at what RPM does torque reach 82lbft and at what RPM does it drop below 82lbft?
Sounds like one hell of a gain you got, 14bhp on a 1.6 T.S. is bloody amazing, was it optimized for higher octane fuel?
Hold on I shall go into the attic to retrive the scanner!!! |
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Re: AO menber discount at Red Dot Racing.
orrr take a picture of the graph...and post that
PS: Excellent results |
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Re: AO menber discount at Red Dot Racing.
Originally Posted by OperationAlfa
14BHP is excellent btw..
It was a little under to begin with, it'd only have been 11 if he was running 120bhp and IIRC Angel reckon about 12/13bhp from a remap on the 1.6. |
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23-01-2008
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Re: AO menber discount at Red Dot Racing.
Here they are the. Bit rough and ready but.......
Last edited by MPH : 23-01-2008 at 23:22.
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23-01-2008
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Re: AO menber discount at Red Dot Racing.
Originally Posted by GhostyDog
It was a little under to begin with, it'd only have been 11 if he was running 120bhp and IIRC Angel reckon about 12/13bhp from a remap on the 1.6.
I don't understand your point.. 
I know it was 117BHP to start with, thats expected.
It was 131BHP after so 14BHP? |
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Re: AO menber discount at Red Dot Racing.
Tis about right with red dot, dont want to shift the curve so much as to make the car impossible round town. They also mentioned that standard ecu governs over a limited rev range and given an aftermarket ecu it can go stupid high +8000rpm
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23-01-2008
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Re: AO menber discount at Red Dot Racing.
Mrs mph may be buying a grande punto sporting (1.9 diesel multijet at 130bph). Red dot reckon that 180bhp is easily obtanable and could do much, much more if it woudnt ruin the clutch/gearbox!!!!!
Cant have that though as she would be faster than me  |
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Re: AO menber discount at Red Dot Racing.
 yeah, she would also get about an extra 200 miles out of a tank |
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Re: AO menber discount at Red Dot Racing.
Wow, that is probably the best N/A remap I have ever seen, you have more torque now across the whole range than what your peak torque was before you arrived.
Red Dot have certainly gone up in my estimation after seeing this. |
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23-01-2008
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Re: AO menber discount at Red Dot Racing.
Mr man in overalls said that he tweeked the fuel a tad as the alfas are already over fuelled and advanced the timing by quite a bit.
Car remains as drivable as before in traffic but flies when opened up. Ps I only use bp ultimate or shell optimax.
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23-01-2008
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Re: AO menber discount at Red Dot Racing.
Originally Posted by OperationAlfa
I don't understand your point..
That's okay cos I can;t remember what point I was trying to make |
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