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19-06-2008
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2.5 V6 in RWD set up
Does anyone have experience of using the 2.5 V6 in a RWD application? I'm currently pulling my MOT failed 156 apart but was wondering if the sump and so on will be ok as is in a RWD set up or whether a baffle of some kind might be worth fitting?
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19-06-2008
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Re: 2.5 V6 in RWD set up
what rwd set up you thinking?
will the engine be going into another Alfa?
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19-06-2008
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Re: 2.5 V6 in RWD set up
I'm planning on using the S2000 gearbox and putting the lot into one of these, except in pearl white
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/view...1&pid=729 231
Damn, why isn't the pic there?
Last edited by DIY Si : 19-06-2008 at 22:57.
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19-06-2008
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Re: 2.5 V6 in RWD set up
Unless someone knows of another sensibly available gearbox that might bolt straight to the V6?
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20-06-2008
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Re: 2.5 V6 in RWD set up
Anyone?
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21-06-2008
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Re: 2.5 V6 in RWD set up
You looking at front-engined RWD set up? Or rear-engined RWD?
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21-06-2008
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Re: 2.5 V6 in RWD set up
Alfaspence is replacing his V6 12v with a V6 24v engine in his Alfa 75. Worth having a search on the 75 section for advice
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21-06-2008
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Re: 2.5 V6 in RWD set up
Sorry, should've said it'll be front engined RWD.
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21-06-2008
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Re: 2.5 V6 in RWD set up
a picture like this 
Last edited by alfaspence : 1 Week Ago at 17:14.
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21-06-2008
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Re: 2.5 V6 in RWD set up
nice car that is! iam glad you have chosen Alfa V6 power 
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22-06-2008
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Re: 2.5 V6 in RWD set up
Best bit is that the car is actually smaller than a Mk 1 MX-5! And I'm going for a target weight of about 650 kgs. Which will be just over 300 bhp/ton!
So what mods, if any, do we reckon are needed for a RWD set up then?
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22-06-2008
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Re: 2.5 V6 in RWD set up
There's a bloke from Whitby with a Alfa V6 powered Westfield/Caterham/Locost. I think he posts on the Locost Builders forum and has a couple of videos on You Tube.
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22-06-2008
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Re: 2.5 V6 in RWD set up
Originally Posted by Pascs
Alfaspence is replacing his V6 12v with a V6 24v engine in his Alfa 75. Worth having a search on the 75 section for advice
The 75 has the clutch & gearbox at the back of the car though.
Flywheel at the front.
Prop running at full engine speed.
There was (is) a twin turbo GTV6 around that had a front mounted gearbox fitted.
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22-06-2008
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Re: 2.5 V6 in RWD set up
The gearbox location won't be a problem. Well, at least it won't affect the engine much. All I need to know at this point in time, is related to the engine itself. Gearbox issues I shall leave for another time!
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28-06-2008
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Re: 2.5 V6 in RWD set up
i would say you are gonna need to do summat with the sump, as the fins are gonna be the wrong way around, so no cooling there, i would think some mods and a bit of though would get you a 75 sump on there, so the fit the right way, dont forget a set of GTA cams in there before you get it running 
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29-06-2008
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Re: 2.5 V6 in RWD set up
You should probably fit an oil cooler of some sorts..
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29-06-2008
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Re: 2.5 V6 in RWD set up
I was going to go for a remote filter and oil cooler as space will be a little restricted in the engine bay. I've spoken to a few guys who have the 3 lt 12V in kit cars, and they have all gone for the 75 sump and manifolds, so that should sort those out.
As for tuning it, I need it to pass it's original emissions test, so they may have to wait for the first round of upgrades along with ITBs from a Triumph bike and some after market ECU. Then I planning on fitting a supercharger! 
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30-06-2008
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Re: 2.5 V6 in RWD set up
Unless your plan is pretty long term or you aren't certain about the blower, I'd skip the ITB stage TBH - you won't really want those with the blower, and even using bike TBs, it'll be a fair amount of money and effort wasted.
I'm nearly done fitting an Eaton M90 to a 12V 3l V6 at the moment. An M62 might have been a better size, but I think this will work......looking at roughly 8psi I hope. Stock internals.
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30-06-2008
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Re: 2.5 V6 in RWD set up
Why would you advise against the ITBs coupled to a blower set up? It probably would be at least a year or more between the two upgrades, as there are a good few cam options and so on to work out first. They would also make a few things with the set up easier to sort out, such as injector positions, although I could always just remove the throttle spindles and use a large TB else where.
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02-07-2008
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Re: 2.5 V6 in RWD set up
Hi chris S. Would be interested to know a few more things about the supercharger you are fitting as I am looking to fit one on a 3 litre 166. On what car are you fitting it? Do you intend to use the standard gearbox?
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