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View Poll Results: Is it cool?
Sub Zero 91 45.27%
Cool 61 30.35%
Uncool 27 13.43%
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Pagani Zonda

We know it's super fast, it's Italian and very rare.

But is it cool?
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Re: Pagani Zonda

Tough one to call. I have seen two by now but despite being impressive, the car just doesn't look right to me, tries too hard. I'd say Uncool
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Re: Pagani Zonda

Its cool alright. Its just not quite sub-zero. Like you say, it does try too hard. But that doesn't stop it from being cool - it is a supercar afterall
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Re: Pagani Zonda

I'd say cool, but it does look like it's out of a science fiction movie.
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Re: Pagani Zonda

One thing that's NOT cool about it is the short bonnet. I think Supercars should be more long-bonneted, with the driver sitting way back. I know mid-engined cars are all the rage but I prefer front-engined rear-wheel drive supercars like the Ferrari 575 and 599, Aston Martins, Maserati's, and of course the iconic Chevy Corvette
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Re: Pagani Zonda

I think it cool - I like the look of it.

Sort of reminds me of a F1
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Re: Pagani Zonda

I think it's sub-zero, it know's what it is and does it awesomely well, also following the Zonda in EVO Magazine's story also brings to light how awesome a machine this is.

I also think that your joe shmo in the street wouldn't even know what it was which also adds to it's appeal, your not buying it to show off your buying it for pure driving pleasure.
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It's an Italian car with a panzer wagon's engine though Sounds plain wrong to me...



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Re: Pagani Zonda

Harry Metcalf, of Evo Magazine lives near me, he has a Zonda F..

I saw him drive past in it and it looks and sounds amazing.

I know it is utterly impractical, and flash but I cannot see how it can be anything but sub zero.
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Love it
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It's
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Re: Pagani Zonda

Not what Gibbo said.


Just imagine picking up your GF with it - it's a boy toy - all muscle and BHP and torque, and as such it is acceptably cool. As a car, however, it don't cut the mustard. Seriously would-be, tries too hard and in the end: totally uncool.
Moreover: the hamster likes it...
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Re: Pagani Zonda

It's cool, the roadster is sub-zero.
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Re: Pagani Zonda

Rare as rocking horse S**t. Sub-Zero.
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Re: Pagani Zonda

very cool, pud i was with you all the way until you used the words 'corvette' and 'supercar' in the same sentence ok the original is about the only decent car to come from the states and the stingray is iconic but a supercar? not in a million years, no matter how hard they are trying to turn the current one into one, it still uses leaf springs for gods sake
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Re: Pagani Zonda

It is a supercar, but only in the sense that it is shockingly quick. There ain't no replacement for displacement after all

Don't forget it does 0-60 in FIRST GEAR and hits 120mph in third in ten seconds. Now that is QUICK! If that doesn't make it a supercar I don't know what will.
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Re: Pagani Zonda

Don't quite know what's wrong, but for me..... Uncool, sorry.

I think my 'Suercar' interests stop at the Ferrari 350
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Re: Pagani Zonda

There a three speed humps in my street and it's too wide to fit on my drive. That's seriously uncool as far as I'm concerned.
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Re: Pagani Zonda

Ghosty has the right idea. Most people wouldn't know what on Earth that thing is. That's OK in my book.
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After seeing how it "performed" in Paris on TG:
Uncool.
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Re: Pagani Zonda

The only place it would look cool is at Le Mans.
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Re: Pagani Zonda

Wonder if one will turn up at the Bristol Italian day again this year.

The orange thing last year looked like a kit car - design didn't seem to work as a whole with too many "pods" and bulges. Now compare that with the Gallardo or Murcielago which do look like they were designed as a whole...

My verdict is "Seriously Uncool"
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Re: Pagani Zonda

Cool

Outrageous looks, sci-fi different, lovely little design features, almost bespoke build by the factory, exclusive, expensive, and utterly usable.

Yes, it does try a bit too hard and lacks a bit of pedigree so falls short of sub-zero status IMO.

But anyone who is knocking points off because its "impractical" or might "struggle with speed humps", is "hard to park" are missing the point. Just like price, it has nowt to do with coolness. If they were valid criteria in this game, it would rank rubbish like Metro or Pug 306 over pure driver's cars, stylistic dreams and supercars.



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Re: Pagani Zonda

But, keep in mind that you can't really ask for pedigree from a company that's been producing cars for just a few years.
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