polish

[gtvtommo]

greetings

anyone found a really good polish for metalic paintwork (showroom finish type)

[bradpit999]

section under "detailing" is best place for this but i use Autoglm products SRP and then the glaze

[gtvtommo]

SRP bradpit999 meaning..............?

[bradpit999]

super resin polish

sorry

[gtvtommo]

ok cheers brad then glaze u say is that a seperate coat ?

[bradpit999]

yep deffinatly over the polish

there is a whole section under "detailing" then i think a whole forum website called detaILING WORLD I THINK IT IS

[gtvtommo]

Originally Posted by bradpit999

yep deffinatly over the polish

there is a whole section under "detailing" then i think a whole forum website called detaILING WORLD I THINK IT IS

thanks bud you've answered my question tnx. I never used top coat over polish I'll try that

when you say detailing is that a section somewhere or do you mean do a forum search for detailing sorry to sound thick

[Chris_C2000]

There's a detailing section on this forum and detailingworld.com is a good place. I use SRP followed by Dodo Juice Purple Haze wax over the top. Awesome stuff!

Worth watching a youtube vid on how to apply SRP.. it's blooming hard work if you do it right!

[gtvtommo]

Originally Posted by Chris_C2000

There's a detailing section on this forum and detailingworld.com is a good place. I use SRP followed by Dodo Juice Purple Haze wax over the top. Awesome stuff!

Worth watching a youtube vid on how to apply SRP.. it's blooming hard work if you do it right!

wheres that section then??????................dont mind the hard work...........I'll check utube out cheers man.

[symon]

I have tried SRP, Poorboys White diamond, and a few others but IMO the best one I have found is Turtle wax Platinum precision wax.

Colour magic works well too at hiding imperfections, but the water doesn't bead for too long after it has been applied so I usually top it off with the Turtle wax platinum extra gloss sealer.

People go on an on about polishes, but it is possible to get good results with most of them. It is just the amount of effort that varies.

[bowsider]

Do you all mean waxing and not polishing?

[gtvtommo]

Originally Posted by bowsider

Do you all mean waxing and not polishing?

is waxing applying polish and posish rubbing it shiny ?........got a feelin' ur gonna say its not that simple

[bowsider]

lol sort of.... polishing is slightly abrading the surface, which as our cars have a coat of lacquer over the paint has to be carefully done. Detailers tend to wash...clay..wash....gentle polish with a VERY FINE compound and mop...wash.......... then wax. If you look at a cheap wax 'polish' you will see the wax content might be 3%, thats why when you 'polish' it off there is loads of dust. Look for a wax that has a higher wax(canuba) content, it will leave a hard shell on the paint to protect and shine. I use zymol which is 40% canuba and cost about 50 quid for a pot..though it has lasted 3 years...once you have the wax 'shell' on you dont polish again.. clean and wax


If you are a millionaire you could try this...............http://www.monzacarcare.com/zymol-wa...nauba-glaze/0/

[gtvtommo]

Originally Posted by bowsider

lol sort of.... polishing is slightly abrading the surface, which as our cars have a coat of lacquer over the paint has to be carefully done. Detailers tend to wash...clay..wash....gentle polish with a VERY FINE compound and mop...wash.......... then wax. If you look at a cheap wax 'polish' you will see the wax content might be 3%, thats why when you 'polish' it off there is loads of dust. Look for a wax that has a higher wax(canuba) content, it will leave a hard shell on the paint to protect and shine. I use zymol which is 40% canuba and cost about 50 quid for a pot..though it has lasted 3 years...once you have the wax 'shell' on you dont polish again.. clean and wax

goodness I never thought it was that complicated but good info thanks

[Turtle4288]

Originally Posted by bowsider

lol sort of.... polishing is slightly abrading the surface, which as our cars have a coat of lacquer over the paint has to be carefully done. Detailers tend to wash...clay..wash....gentle polish with a VERY FINE compound and mop...wash.......... then wax. If you look at a cheap wax 'polish' you will see the wax content might be 3%, thats why when you 'polish' it off there is loads of dust. Look for a wax that has a higher wax(canuba) content, it will leave a hard shell on the paint to protect and shine. I use zymol which is 40% canuba and cost about 50 quid for a pot..though it has lasted 3 years...once you have the wax 'shell' on you dont polish again.. clean and wax


If you are a millionaire you could try this...............Zymol Zymol Royale 70% Carnauba Glaze from Monza Car Care

good post!!

clay and polish (abrasives) have killed my Rosso paint in the 6 months of ownership, I should have been using far less of that and more wax to get the shine.

[gtvtommo]

Originally Posted by Turtle4288

good post!!

clay and polish (abrasives) have killed my Rosso paint in the 6 months of ownership, I should have been using far less of that and more wax to get the shine.

you're losing me again chaps......clay and polish whats that ? excuse the pun but this is an apt thread for you turtle ...............sorry I couldn't resist......I still aint found this detailing section......anyone ?????????????????

[bowsider]

Originally Posted by gtvtommo

you're losing me again chaps......clay and polish whats that ? excuse the pun but this is an apt thread for you turtle ...............sorry I couldn't resist......I still aint found this detailing section......anyone ?????????????????

A world for detailers...

Clay is a commercial product that is used to remove impurities from the surface of the car.
You use it with your hand and water and gently wipe it over the whole car. Your lacquer/paint will have tiny bits of tar/grit/chemicals etc. embedded in it. When I was shown how to use it....
you run your fingers over the paint with a piece of cellophane(the wrapping from a fag packet works) and it feels rough prior to claying. After claying you can feel how smooth the surface has become.

Polish is a compound that very slightly works the surface of the lacquer to remove all the tiny swirls and scratches that you have put into the surface when washing with a dirty sponge etc. Or waxed with muck on the car or cloth.

Guys who are into this use the two bucket method to wash the car. One bucket with the
cleaning product in, a second bucket to rinse the sponge/cloth in between every application
so you are not rubbing dirt onto the car.... ever seen whats in the bottom of the bucket after washing?. Thats what you rub onto your paintwork causing scratches and swirls.
clay......How to use a clay bar on your car - YouTube
Zymol Zymol Lehm Clay 3 Paint Cleaning Bar from Monza Car Care
two buckets.....
Car Washing & Drying using 2 Bucket Method - Car Care Products - YouTube

I haven't posted a polishing link because unless you know what you are doing you might
make the surface worse. Guys use orbital polishing machines Zymol Orbital Polishers from Monza Car Care

But you need to know the right compound to use for your paint.
Zymol Polishing Compounds from Monza Car Care

I'd start off with the finest compound, might take longer but will be safer

[gtvtommo]

Originally Posted by bowsider

A world for detailers...

Clay is a commercial product that is used to remove impurities from the surface of the car.
You use it with your hand and water and gently wipe it over the whole car. Your lacquer/paint will have tiny bits of tar/grit/chemicals etc. embedded in it. When I was shown how to use it....
you run your fingers over the paint with a piece of cellophane(the wrapping from a fag packet works) and it feels rough prior to claying. After claying you can feel how smooth the surface has become.

Polish is a compound that very slightly works the surface of the lacquer to remove all the tiny swirls and scratches that you have put into the surface when washing with a dirty sponge etc. Or waxed with muck on the car or cloth.

Guys who are into this use the two bucket method to wash the car. One bucket with the
cleaning product in, a second bucket to rinse the sponge/cloth in between every application
so you are not rubbing dirt onto the car.... ever seen whats in the bottom of the bucket after washing?. Thats what you rub onto your paintwork causing scratches and swirls.
clay......How to use a clay bar on your car - YouTube
Zymol Zymol Lehm Clay 3 Paint Cleaning Bar from Monza Car Care
two buckets.....
Car Washing & Drying using 2 Bucket Method - Car Care Products - YouTube

I haven't posted a polishing link because unless you know what you are doing you might
make the surface worse. Guys use orbital polishing machines Zymol Orbital Polishers from Monza Car Care

But you need to know the right compound to use for your paint.
Zymol Polishing Compounds from Monza Car Care

I'd start off with the finest compound, might take longer but will be safer

wow bowside there's a whole weekend reading and viewing there before I get started on mine - thanks....and I thought I asked a simple question.......just looked at my autoglm srp and it dont state the canuba (carnauba whatever) content ?

[gtvtommo]

so is this claybar a similiar process to say T-Cut ?

[bowsider]

Originally Posted by gtvtommo

so is this claybar a similiar process to say T-Cut ?

I dont know autoglym products at all.... probably no wax at all as it relies on a resin coat. Thats why its cheap lol.


Clay is less abrasive, and because you use your hand you can 'feel' how you are doing, also it lifts the impurities in the lacquer out and retains them.... with t-cut you are rubbing a thin layer off of the lacquer which is hard to judge...and also tend to rub all the tiny bits of grit into the lacquer causing the swirl effect. If you go the wash/clay/wash/polish/wash/wax route remember that if you get it right you only do this once for at least a year.. after that its just wash/wax and build up the protective shell of wax. Then its easy because you will have such a good coat of wax washing is twice as quick. A day well spent will give you a year of a shiny car, detailers talk about depth of shine, thats achieved with proper prep. and layers of wax..........not resin etc. Also once you have gone this route never trust your car to any type of car wash, the products they use can strip off your carefully applied wax, besides all the grotty sponges and cloths they will rub over your pride and joy.

You can get very anal about a shiny car .... but its not that difficult, like everything else its preparation, waxing is the easy bit.

[gtvtommo]

you've been a big help bowsider thanks for all your efforts

[JohnMartyn]

I will suggest for Autoglym super resin polish on metallic paintwork which leaves a great finish.It is durable and long lasting which will give more shine to your car which have metallic paint.the autoglym super resin polish is just a wee bit.

SRP is not really it's a polish, strictly speaking it is a glaze, with very, very, very mild abrasives.

The correct steps after washing and claying are;

1. Polish, ideally with a Rotary however, you have to know what you're doing with one of these.

2. Glaze, to hide and residual imperfections. SRP comes in here however, there are many to chose from. Depening on the colour of your car, Poorboys Black Hole or White Diamond are a gooD choice; thick and easy to work with.

3. Sealant - to keepthe glaze in place. There are many to chose from, Jetseal 109 excellentand again, easy to work with.

4. Wax. That's your last step and the choice (and price list) is endless. Remember that wax is wax. Autoglym's HD Wax is very, very good and doesn't cost the earth. Meguiar's Number 16 is also top dollar.

[Singularity]

Gtechniq P1

Great stuff IMHO.

Just corrected my GT with this (rotary) and it looks great now!

[JM93]

If you are polishing and then using a glaze afterwards before sealant, ensure that the glaze/sealant do not have any cleaners in them - this may remove any fillers (that hide imperfections) that were in the polish. SRP (super resin polish) is full of fillers - from personal experience if you are polishing by hand, I would use Super Resin Polish followed by Extra Gloss Protection or a traditional wax such as HD Wax or Collinite 476s.