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Hi all

We wanted to post this earlier (especially as we also work) but as promised, Ian and I have been working on what we believe is the answer to the recent concerns.

We agreed and tested the following changes; today we are addressing the issues with regards to the Image & WOT lounges. We have completed some technical tests and will need to close on Tuesday 17th April (21:00 - 24:00) to implement some changes as we feel that there have been some very valid points raised about content that has been submitted to the Forum lounges by our members which, in their current locations, are blocked from normal view. This was an over sight on our part and agree that it would be honourable to return them. To further demonstrate and prove our commitment to the site and its current members, both lounges will be returned back to all members (current & future) with all restrictions removed.

Although we believe that our subscribed members didn't subscribe purely for access to these two lounges, we believe it would be only right to offer Premio/Medio members a refund should they wish, as we have effectively changed what we had originally offered. This can be done by raising a support ticket.

There has also been some heated debate about the way the AO club is operated and that it isn’t really a club. We firmly believe that if we had not charged for the club and simply changed the name from alfaowner.com to alfaowner.com Club, this would probably not have been as big an issue but at the end of the day we do need to create revenue to cover our yearly running costs and year one is obviously an important part to funding the future. We are a creative team as you can see from our surroundings and hope you believe that we have the best site strategy for growth and development. I'm sure you all appreciate we simply cannot always share our ideas and compromise the move to another level. We stand by our decision to call our online presence a club and will not be changing this because it is generally accepted that a club is an association of people united by a common interest and we believe that is what we already did and very much hope to continue to do so, bearing in mind that without subscribed members our site ideas and passion are restricted.

When we complete the maintenance to the site, we will have posted about changes that most Premio/Medio members have requested regarding their 'club plaques' etc.

We feel we have listened to your comments and hope you have understood ours. Thank you for your continuing support now or in the future.

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Extremely well explained, with considerations clearly and understandably well put, look forward to a long and happy relationship with the best automotive site on the planet!: P.S. I do flounder a little when trying to explain myself fully, as has been noted by some of the good friends I have made on AO. as my mentor's AF and HM and Co. are aware

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I am happy that you keep my payment. However, you don't make a good case for why anyone else would bother to pay in the future.

Keep your powder dry and don't make any more announcements until you are ready to announce something fully.

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Thanks Mr. Jeff and Ian... keep up the extremely good work guys !!

PS I won't be requesting a refund !!

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Thanks for you post Mr Jeff. I'm happy you can keep my 25.

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Although we believe that our subscribed members didn't subscribe purely for access to these two lounges, we believe it would be only right to offer Premio/Medio members a refund should they wish, as we have effectively changed what we had originally offered. This can be done by raising a support ticket.
Exceptionally fair of you. Rest assured, I won't be requesting my money back.
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Forgot to say thankyou, Mr. Jeff.: Incidentally, I was waiting for a snail mail address, ( misplaced the previous one I had ) think Ant could of used one BTW.:
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Thanks for the update Mr Jeff. I won't be requesting a refund however
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Thanks for the update and the correct decision re WOT and Image access IMHO.

As with others above I will not be requesting a refund.

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I've said it before and I'll say it again - you are more than welcome to my money - no refund for me.

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Me too, I'm quite happy for you to keep the wonga, the missus will only blow it on clothes, jewelry,candles, cushions, perfume etc....
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Thank you Mr Jeff for the comments, the update and all the hard work by Ian and everyone involved with AO. Not only an excellent site but a friendly place unlike any other I have come across. No refund is necessary I'm happy for AO to accept the money.
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Fair play to Ian and Geoff, as a committed non-payer I am pleased that you guys listened to the concerns of me and my fellow tight-wads .

I am glad I continued to support this site by posting over the last week rather than ''take my bat and ball home''.

How about a ''donate'' feature, to allow people to donate to your running/server costs rather than actually joining up?

I echo ZF's and others comments, AO is by far the best forum-based website on t'internet.

Best Wishes to all at AO.

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what they all said

i think in keeping WOT & images open to ALL members you have most definitely reached the right decision. and no i don't want a refund ta
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Nice one no refund required
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Fair play to Ian and Geoff, as a committed non-payer I am pleased that you guys listened to the concerns of me and my fellow tight-wads .

I am glad I continued to support this site by posting over the last week rather than ''take my bat and ball home''.

How about a ''donate'' feature, to allow people to donate to your running/server costs rather than actually joining up?

I echo ZF's and others comments, AO is by far the best forum-based website on t'internet.

Best Wishes to all at AO.

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What he said - but I prefer the term "Careful"
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Well said Jeff and Ian. Not only, do I not want a refund (as I haven't paid yet!!), I will be pleased to pay to help out the forum, if that's still an option, at the current rate , when I have the cash. You guys do a great job, and yes, I agree this is the best forum that I've ever come across (appart form Womenwithoutclothes.com. )
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I think a donation system would work better in that by donating you get extra benefits to extra sub forums and club benefits in addition to what standard members would get.
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Thanks for that guys!



And off he goes to WOT & the bar to drivel and get drunk on virtual cryo'd beer...
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I'm glad the WOT and image lounges are open to all and as the rest have said no I won't be requesting a refund

Thanks for all the hard work and can we all get back to being AO mates now
 
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You've done a good job Mr J and AO. I'm perfectly happy with the situation as it now stands and no refund is necessary.

I don't think a "donate" feature would be an improvement though norbert as it would create something of yet another level of membership. We now have a donate feature anyway .
 
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I'm glad the WOT and image lounges are open to all and as the rest have said no I won't be requesting a refund

Thanks for all the hard work and can we all get back to being AO mates now

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Bravo, I think it's the right decision, but that shouldn't disuade you guys from sourcing alternative funding. I'm sure there are any number of sponsors out there willing to become assosciated with such a professional and extensive site...
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