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Old 22-11-09
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Anyone who can properly do ECU tuning

Not a fixed ecu program [revo], a tuner able to custom tune the car on the rolling road
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Talk to "supercharged16v" about it,he may have the answer for you
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Originally Posted by n3xus-cy View Post
Not a fixed ecu program [revo], a tuner able to custom tune the car on the rolling road
Welcome to my nightmare !

I've been talking to Gus and Addie ( AlfaTuner and AHMotorsports ) and they are willing to come to Cyprus for a weekend and tune up our Alfa's.
We need to gather at least 5 cars in order for them to come and for us not to be too expensive.

So, if you are willing to proceed with this case, give me exact specs of your car : model year, engine etc , so Gus can qive us a price for tuning your car. Then add the dyno price at 170 euro per hour ( minimum charge is 1 hour, so you wont need more than that ) plus your share of Gus's and Addies plane tickets and accomodation for one night.

This may sound a bit expensive , but trust me, it will cost you less at the end of the day you wont regret it as these guys know exactly what they are doing


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Hey guys,

I'm also interested in having a proper remap here in Cyprus.
I have been in contact with Angeltuning and they are also willing to come to Cyprus if we can gather 5 cars or more.
Count me in please!
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I thought you were changing your engine first !
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Can you please postpone it for another 2 years please...
...when my car will be out of warranty

Just kiding
but if my car was out of warranty I would seriously tell you to count me in also
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Im in.
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so its 2 more?
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Yes, that would be Senna and a friend of his with a Brera.

Gus can you quote prices for each car please ?

We've got :

N3xus's 156 -1.6 2002 model
Kyriacosmetal's - 156 - 1.6
Senna's - Alfa GT 2.0 selespeed
Senna's friend - Alfa Brera 2.2 Diesel
My Alfa 33 - 1.8 OMEX ECU, etc etc

Thats so far.
By the way, how many cars can you and Addie do over a weekend ?
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Originally Posted by Supercharged16v View Post
Yes, that would be Senna and a friend of his with a Brera.

Gus can you quote prices for each car please ?

We've got :

N3xus's 156 -1.6 2002 model
Kyriacosmetal's - 156 - 1.6
Senna's - Alfa GT 2.0 selespeed
Senna's friend - Alfa Brera 2.2 Diesel
My Alfa 33 - 1.8 OMEX ECU, etc etc

Thats so far.
By the way, how many cars can you and Addie do over a weekend ?

Brera 2.2 diesel???
We can certainly do more than 5,it is your's that will take longest.
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Originally Posted by ALFA TUNER View Post
Brera 2.2 diesel???
We can certainly do more than 5,it is your's that will take longest.
I may have got the Brera thing wrong

Senna had sent me the specs of his GT and the Brera buy I accidentaly deleted them from my PM inbox

What the guys need to know is how much more power they can expect approximately and how much it will cost them.

Can you give me a rough estimate on power and cost please
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With N/A cars the power gains aren't huge about 10-12 bhp,where the big difference is is in throttle responce and drivability,have a look at these threads

http://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/alfa-...tuner-gus.html (JTS Remapped by Alfa tuner (Gus))


http://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/alfa-...ap-smiles.html (2.4 JTDm remap smiles)

If the Brera is a 2.4 diesel then about 45 bhp extra and about 100lbs/ft torque more
Costs in pm
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Thanks for that Gus, I will inform the guys and get back to you. Also now that you gave me the prices, maybe we can source more cars in need of a remap
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Originally Posted by Supercharged16v View Post
Thanks for that Gus, I will inform the guys and get back to you. Also now that you gave me the prices, maybe we can source more cars in need of a remap
Can you please also tell me how much it's going to cost?
I'll see if it's wosth to do mine also
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Sorry, I know I asked this many times but i want to ask again...

If I decide to do it, will this cancel the warranty?
I mean is there a chance the guys at dealership to found out some time when the car will go for the annual maintenance?
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Originally Posted by nikolasv View Post
Can you please also tell me how much it's going to cost?
I'll see if it's wosth to do mine also
around 450 Euro ( 400 british pounds ) plus 170 euro for the dyno for one hour, plus your share of plane tickets and accomodation expenses if you want in.

Worst case senario for your type of engine and all expenses considered - around 700 Euro.

JTS engines are more expensive as they have more complicated ECU's
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Originally Posted by nikolasv View Post
Sorry, I know I asked this many times but i want to ask again...

If I decide to do it, will this cancel the warranty?
I mean is there a chance the guys at dealership to found out some time when the car will go for the annual maintenance?
no chance of them ever finding out , its not something visible, and it wont show any errors if connected to the factory diagnostic center.

By the way, after talking to Gus ( AlfaTuner ) , he explained to me that 10 to 12 bhp more may not sound like a lot, but you will definately feel the difference in faster throttle response and more aggresive feel

Diesel engines are much more powerfull when tuned, if anyone with a diesel Alfa is interested
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Originally Posted by Supercharged16v View Post
he explained to me that 10 to 12 bhp more may not sound like a lot, but you will definately feel the difference in faster throttle response and more aggresive feel
Yes, I can imagine
Reading posts from other 2.2JTSengine owners who did ECU remap they are very excited. Its not about more BHP,... it becomes a totally different car

Ok! Thanks a lot for the info

When do plan to do this?
I don't mean to sound a bit...
...but you will make things easy for me if you plan this after January,...
It's up to you guys always
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Will let you know as soon as we get answers from the rest of the guys as well.

Your Brera isnt a JTS is it ?
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yes 2.2 JTS
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hm.. the more people in, the cheaper will it get.
when do u plan on doin this?
maybe i have time for those c&b cams
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Originally Posted by nikolasv View Post
yes 2.2 JTS
errmmm... sorry about that, you need to add another 50 pounds ( 55 Euro ) to the tuning price. Gus told me that a JTS engine is 50 pounds more because its a more complicated ECU
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It's OK, no problem
I just hope the total cost will be at around 700-800 euros
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Originally Posted by nikolasv View Post
It's OK, no problem
I just hope the total cost will be at around 700-800 euros
Thats max price.

Think about it this way. If you do a REVO upgrade, it will cost you about the same, maybe even more, and it will be a " blind " upgrade as you wont know what you've done
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