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Looking for some advice.....

Having been a 156 V6 owner for a few years I've just added a 3.0 X reg. Spider to the collection.

All in all it's in pretty good condition with a reasonably low mileage (68k) and just two previous owners.

My questions relate to the rear suspension/camber in particular. The car is currently shod with the cheapest Chinese ditch finders. The inside edges of the rears are almost on the limits and looking at the MOT history it has had advisories since 2010 (50k miles) regarding worn inside edges. Of course I don't know if the tyres have been changed since 50k miles or not.

I want to get new tyres but I don't want to spend a load of money only to find out the rear suspension needs a major overhaul. So what should the tyre life be like for the rears on a Spider? Is inside edge wear normal? If the wear is excessive what is most likely to be affecting the camber?

To give you some idea I'd say that the inside edge is 2mm and the outside 4-5mm.

A second issue is that changing from forward to reverse and vice-versa is accompanied by a clonking noise from the front end. I don't think it's in the drivetrain but more likely to be suspension related. Any ideas?
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Hello ref the camber and inner tyre wear. You have suspension bushing issues.

Here's my situation for comparison....

Couple of months ago, I picked up my dream Gtv V6 - I looked for a long time and found one that had had a lot of the issues addressed that I knew to look for ie replacement of belts recently, q2 diff fitted etc etc. I looked for the infamous inner tyre wear issue but the seller had a very recent set of ditch finders fitted and the tyres looked good (albeit cheapo's).

500 miles later there is an alarming wha wha wha drone coming from the rear and lo and behold the insides of both rear tyres are buggered. So there are some seriously knackered bushings under there. The wheels do look visibly tilted inwards from bottom to top, almost like those cartoon images of sports cars seen on tasteless coffee mugs. This just goes to show how radically quickly a worn setup can destroy tyres. I think the use of wangli's only accelerated this rate of destruction.

To remedy this I am now going through the process of replacing all suspension parts with parts that I have reconditioned and fitted with a mixture of power flex bushes and lemforder spherical bushes. I'm not leaving anything to chance as I don't want to have this work done more than once, so am replacing absolutely everything, springs, shocks, links etc at the same time. Only once this is done will I fit new tyres.

Best of luck with it - it sounds like a nice spider you've got, so give her some rear end loving then treat her to some new rubber, so to speak.....,.
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I had this done to mine. The full suspension geometry made a fairly epic difference to the handling. I would also say that having the powdercoating done is a very good idea as those spring pans can rust so easily.

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My understanding is that the springs are the main culprits for camber (not necessarily inner tyre wear). The rear adjustable tie bar sets the toe in/out only. I'm also doing a rebuild with new springs & powerflexing the back end, brakes blah blah. Good luck!
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I wanted to reply earlier but I'd forgotten my log-in password

Anyway, thanks for the replies. I guess it kind of confirms my worst fears that a rear-end suspension rebuild is probably the eventual outcome.

I'm going to get a four-wheel alignment sorted which I reckon will confirm the issue can't be resolved by adjustment.

Then the next question is where to get this done. My local specialist in Westbury has closed up shop so Autolusso in Bournemouth would seem the next nearest specialist although I have been recommended Alfanatics in Hook. Anybody any experience of these guys?

Like swallow I think I'll treat this as a one time only job!

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Just to add to earlier comments, my Cup is set up correctly but still has the 'cartoonish' level of camber. Even though the rear wheels look like they are 45 degrees to the road the wear level over the last two years has been even. There are several threads/posts which mention inner edge wear and as you will see, this is accepted as 'the norm'.
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