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Just goes to show replacing those idlers is so important. Thanks to Dan (again) for raising this issue. As I mentioned in another thread recently, not even well-known specialists (including an extremely well-known one on here) automatically replace the idler(s). As I said I had a very ascerbic exchange with the specialist in question, gave up and went elsewhere.

Basically get everything changed (including the waterpump) when doing this job. At least if anything does go wrong, you can't blame yourself
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Yes, genuine parts and vat. No water pump tho...
did you have the balance belt etc done as well?

RRP for the parts alone, inc balance belt & variator(100?), comes to over 314 with vat.
Did they only charge 1 for labour? or did you not have the tensioners etc? or did you get MASSIVE discount, like 50% off?

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hi all you guys, thanks for answering and commenting on my dilemma, thats much appreciated, yes clive from cg trading, ill phone the alfa specialists, might even get a better price from the sounds of it, arnold clark up here in aberdeen quoted 660 pounds for a straight cam belt pack change, i guess that included the tensioners etc but not the variator or the waterpump, not sure if the bottom belt was included either.

ill ask them to double check the oil pump/crankshaft end float aswell.


thanks groovy lee, ill make sure they have the part first, if its the best price up here for that amount of work i think im better off buying a locking tool for myself cause ill only need it again.

hey thanks to everyone, its good to get some helpfull information, ill be putting up my picture of my alfa very soon

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hope it all works out good for you dylan
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hey ive a 98 146 as the title says, had all the rust chopped out of her this august, sills, drain plug areas and 1/2 the floor, shes on 74k now and in good nick, bought it off a bloke in england at 72k, man have i had trouble trying to get a garage to do the timing belt, 5 out of 6 garages said no! but 1 small country garage said yes, im getting the whole lot done, belt, tensioners, pulleys, the lower belt aswell as the water pump, the whole shibang, aswell as i think he said the variator or actuater, i have read about it in this forum before, he said it doesnt do much damage but its noisy as hell. anyway, my 146 is on the road to being a restored looked after gem, after seeing those photos i hope it makes the 15 mile drive to the garage this saturday, anyway, for all that work its about 700 pounds, 360 for parts, the rest labour, im up in scotlans aberdeenshire, i dont have alfa garages coming out my ears like you boys in england and the borders, so what do you think, id like to hear some experienced opinions of you fellow alfa enthusiasts.
What garage are you using?

I can recommend two garages for the cam belt change. However, as said above source and supply the cam locking tools yourself.
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What garage are you using?

I can recommend two garages for the cam belt change. However, as said above source and supply the cam locking tools yourself.
why not use a garage that already has them & therefore will have done the job before?

If anything goes wrong they can't blame your tools, only themselves.

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good call clive i was just thinking if a suitable alfa friendly garage couldn't be found
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As you may or may not know there are no Alfa dealers or independant specialists up here in aberdeen. The garages I used in the past did not have the locking tools when I asked, so I bought and supplied them for peace of mind.

I also know one garage that will definately have them but they are the more expensive than the ones I would choose.
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As you may or may not know there are no Alfa dealers or independant specialists up here in aberdeen. The garages I used in the past did not have the locking tools when I asked, so I bought and supplied them for peace of mind.

I also know one garage that will definately have them but they are the more expensive than the ones I would choose.

as long as 'Dylan' uses one that's done the job before he should be ok with them 'borrowing' his cam tools.

Perhaps he should use one of the garages that you've used in the past?

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Of course the garages will give back the cam lock tools if you supply them, otherwise what waste if you are planning on keeping the car!

I had a cam lock set and the variator removal tool but I gave them to the guy who bought my last car (forseeing that I will probably not own another TS engined car in a while) - i was possibly being too generous?!
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Of course the garages will give back the cam lock tools if you supply them, otherwise what waste if you are planning on keeping the car!
I was in no way implying that they might keep them, rather to use a garage who had done the job before!?

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rather to use a garage who had done the job before!?

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Good advice i lost out on my 146 when I got a so called alfa specialist to do the variotor and cam. The timing was out by two teeth and i had to get a Proper alfa specialist to put it right. It might mean travelling a bit extra distance but get it done by someone trusted on here.
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Can't believe this was 6 years ago - that cambelt is due for changing again now if it hasn't already been done.
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