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the wide tyres on the rear for me is purely an aesthetic look i want to achieve
Same for me, I run 235 at the rear with spacers. I think it looks awesome !!!
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nothing wrong with the good old 147 wheels 17". these look pretty awsome and bolt straight on no problemo
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David, they bolt straight on with no spacer needed as i have clearance all round. i am currently running 205's but am upgrading tomorrow to 225's on the rear and prob 215's on the front.
Even with the upgrade sizes i still have clearance3 all round as i have measured.
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the wide tyres on the rear for me is purely an aesthetic look i want to achieve
The 147 wheels "fit" without spacers (providing you've used the shorter 147/156 bolts), but they do sit 10mm further in than GTV/Spider wheels.
15mm spacers all round would look a lot better and you can use the original long GTV/Spider bolts.
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Hi All

im running 17" 147 wheels on my 916 spider and they look great. I am about to upgrade tyres from 205mm to 225's or 235's. Has any one run 235's on their 916's rear?
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What size tyres are you running?
The std size for those wheels would be 215/45R17, with 225/45R17 fitting too.

They should obviously have spacers on a GTV/Spider, otherwise they sit too far in.

Wider rear tyres on a FWD car has never made any sense to me...!
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nothing wrong with the good old 147 wheels 17". these look pretty awsome and bolt straight on no problemo
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David, they bolt straight on with no spacer needed as i have clearance all round. i am currently running 205's but am upgrading tomorrow to 225's on the rear and prob 215's on the front.
Even with the upgrade sizes i still have clearance3 all round as i have measured.
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the wide tyres on the rear for me is purely an aesthetic look i want to achieve
Yes they will bolt on & you'll have no clearance problems but due to the larger ET they sit further in than the std GTV rims.

If you use spacers you'll achieve an even better look, I'd recommend 15mm hubcentrics.

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thanks clive, where can i buy 15mm hubcentrics?
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this is my rear track look now before the upgrade
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this is my rear track look now before the upgrade
The rear track is narrow because you've got the wrong offset wheels, but hopefully you've realised that now!
and the picture is taken too close to the car to actually be able to see anything...

Fitting wider tyres doesn't increase the track.
The correct offset wheels or spacers will.

15mm spacers are available from many places. There should be someone local(ish) to you, unless you need to import everything.

As I said, if you've still got the original GTV/Spider wheel bolts, they will fit with 147 wheels & 15mm spacers. So you wouldn't need to buy new bolts as well.

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thanks clive, where can i buy 15mm hubcentrics?
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15mm spacers are available from many places. There should be someone local(ish) to you, unless you need to import everything.
I seem to remember spacers are illegal in Oz?

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i took off the 16's which had an ET of 38 and fitted the 17's which have an ET of 41.5, so there is very minimal difference in the track size anyway. I have measured and found i still have really good space clearance to go to 225 tyres to achieve a wider tyre look on the rims.
I never was that fussed about getting a wider rear track look as i think it looks fine as is anyway, but you have got me thinking now with the hubcentric spacers idea.
Do these hubcentrics throw the balance out at all ?
At the end of the day i know i can now upgrade tyre size to 225 without any problems and maybe just think about the wider track for a future project. If i buy hubcentric kit i will buy one that comes with the bolts anyway. I sold my old 16" wheels with the bolts long ago.

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i took off the 16's which had an ET of 38...
Are you sure?

Shouldn't they have been ET30.5 ...?
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i'll post a new picture after i have got the 225's fitted tomorrow. Getting close to 1am here so i am off now.
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no, the 16's i took off had ET38 and the 147 wheels i have put on have ET 41.5, so thats 3.5mm difference per side equalling 7mm. i'll check the ET again tomorrow but i am pretty sure it was 41.5.
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I seem to remember spacers are illegal in Oz?

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Legal or not please?

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I think he is sleeping now.
I remember something about them in Aus too, but I'm not there so didn't look into it any further.
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I had a conversation with another Aussie guy ( on another forum ) a few weeks ago. Spacers are legal if they are OEM. That covers the 4mm spacers supplied by AR. 15mm, being aftermarket, would not be covered by that definition.

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I had a conversation with another Aussie guy ( on another forum ) a few weeks ago. Spacers are legal if they are OEM.
Presumably that only applies to the version of the car they were originally fitted to.
It would be interesting to hear from the guys in Aus if this is actively enforced.
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I had a conversation with another Aussie guy ( on another forum ) a few weeks ago. Spacers are legal if they are OEM. That covers the 4mm spacers supplied by AR. 15mm, being aftermarket, would not be covered by that definition.
That's what I remember as well.

What about aftermarket wheels or wheels from the same manufacturer but for a different model &/or a different size?

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well david, i have today done some research and found that the 16" wheels i took off were sports selespeed wheels with an ET41.5 (fact straight off the data sheet) and the new 17" 147 wheels i have fitted are ET 40.5.
A 1mm difference hardly worth talking about!

Had the 225 45 17 tyres fitted this morning and they look and handle beautifully. Stacks of room meant i could easily fit 235's if i wanted to at a future date. (225's pic attached)

its been a great discussion with alot learnt for all. As for spacers in Australia I am not sure on the laws but no copper is gonna check anyway. Aussies do what they want !
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here's a link to data sheet too where i got my stats for the 16" sports selespeed wheels

Alfa Romeo 156 Standard Wheel Sizes: Offset, PCD, Centre Bore for 156 mk1 and mk2. | Which Wheels
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another handy link i have found that people might like to use.

Online Wheel and Tyre Fitment Calculator. Offset, Tyre Stretch and Speedo Error | Will They Fit
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well david, i have today done some research and found that the 16" wheels i took off were sports selespeed wheels with an ET41.5 (fact straight off the data sheet) and the new 17" 147 wheels i have fitted are ET 40.5.
A 1mm difference hardly worth talking about!
Only 1mm difference because your old wheels were from a 156/147.
They WERE NOT GTV/Spider wheels.
GTV/Spider should have ET30 wheels.
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yes i know, but they were the wheels on the car when i bought it. Alls good anyway.
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yes i know, but they were the wheels on the car when i bought it.
That doesn't make it right though.

If you're happy, then fine.

I just find it odd that you're happy with wheels with the wrong offset when you're also looking for a wider track look...

With a set of 15mm hubcentric spacers & 38mm bolts it would look so much better.
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initially I was never looking for a wider track, i was just wanting wider tyres for the aesthetic look. But since you advised me about hub centrics, you have excited me and planted a seed in my mind, so i probably will do that eventually.

just need to gather some $$$$ first after spending $$$$ on tyres already.

thanks for your help.
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Same for me, I run 235 at the rear with spacers. I think it looks awesome !!!
...but yours are 18" ?

Have you had it lowered as the rear camber looks excessive?

Here are some additional pics of 'Gold Cup's' rear end for comparison. It's on 255/40 & std 17" 7.5J Teles with std suspension. Plus I've added a pic of 'G6 GTV' on 225/40 18s spaced & lowered + 'Nuvola Cup' on 235/35 19s on std suspension.

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I have commented on his excessive rear camber and silly size tyres before now Clive. A good session with the suspension geometry wizards are needed i think

Incidentally, what happened to that V6 GTV plate?
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