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Question What springs???

There's been a few threads on here about what shocks to use on a GTV and after 15+ years on the originals replacing them is on my to do list. What about springs? Do they deteriate too with age? If so what do people recommend? Standard/original spec or lowered? Thoughts please...
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Standard spring with koni yellows.

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Suplex looks to be popular with several alfa sites selling that brand. They are pattern part so OEM spec.

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Standard spring with koni yellows.

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Sadly Konis are a bit out of my price range. Cheapest I've found are well over 500 a set so looking at KYBs for the rear and Monroes or TRW for the front. Just wondering whether it is worth fitting new springs at the same time and if so, which ones?
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Suplex looks to be popular with several alfa sites selling that brand. They are pattern part so OEM spec.

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I have read good reviews of them so my choices are looking like keep the originals springs, suplex for about 110 a set or Eibach for about 180 a set.
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I put these on the back of my 98 spider. No issues.
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If you go for Eibach springs then get the koni orange.

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I put these on the back of my 98 spider. No issues.
Did you change the springs at the same time?
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If you go for Eibach springs then get the koni orange.

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I could be wrong but I don't think you can get Koni orange for a Twinnie just the V6.
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I could be wrong but I don't think you can get Koni orange for a Twinnie just the V6.
Sorry I didn't know you had a twinnie.

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Sorry I didn't know you had a twinnie.

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I did have a V6 boot lid for a while so I could pretend
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You have a little more choice for the twinnie, have you looked here? Alfa Romeo GTV Suspension I get quite a few bits from these people and a are a really good company.
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Did you change the springs at the same time?
Nope, just the shocks, one of the rear failed. Springs are next on the list.
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You have a little more choice for the twinnie, have you looked here? Alfa Romeo GTV Suspension I get quite a few bits from these people and a are a really good company.
Thanks... I've already looked there, Alfashop, Alfaworkshop, Autolusso etc. Plenty of choice for the rear... TRV, KYB, Koni orange and yellow, Sachs etc but not too much for the front, all I've found so far is TRW, Koni yellow and Monroe.
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I put Monroe front shocks on mine. Don't think they are the sportiest of shocks but the spider chassis can't cope with stiff suspension. I just cleaned up and painted the original springs.
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I put Monroe front shocks on mine. Don't think they are the sportiest of shocks but the spider chassis can't cope with stiff suspension. I just cleaned up and painted the original springs.
I have used Monroes before albeit on a Mk 3 Cortina about 30 years ago and was quite impressed with them. I would love to go for something like Konis but in the interests of marital bliss my budget is a bit limited to probably Monroe or TRW shocks. I'm guessing almost anything will be an improvement on 15 year old originals.
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To be honest I didn't notice any difference but the old shocks weren't leaking anyway. Did give me a chance to tackle the corrosion up inside the suspension turret. I've seen them rust completely through.
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To be honest I didn't notice any difference but the old shocks weren't leaking anyway. Did give me a chance to tackle the corrosion up inside the suspension turret. I've seen them rust completely through.
I'll keep an eye out for that. How did you treat it?
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I have Suplex springs on my spider. KYB on the rear with TRW shocks on the front. Ride is good along with turn in. I think I got the lot from Alfa shop iirc. The springs are pretty stiff to be honest. I have Eibach on my V6 and I'm seriously considering changing them out for Suplex ones. Far to hard for pothole riddled UK roads.
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I have Suplex springs on my spider. KYB on the rear with TRW shocks on the front. Ride is good along with turn in. I think I got the lot from Alfa shop iirc. The springs are pretty stiff to be honest. I have Eibach on my V6 and I'm seriously considering changing them out for Suplex ones. Far to hard for pothole riddled UK roads.
Thanks for the advice... I only want to have to change the springs once so could well go for the Suplex. I get enough grief off the Mrs about the car without her banging on about ride quality with stiffer springs
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I have been offered a set of secondhand Eibach springs that have done less than 1000 miles for a very reasonable price. They are part number 1018-140 and the seller assures me they fit both a V6 and a Twinnie. Looking on the Eibach webpage they fit all GTVs but looking at Alfashop the 1018-040 is for the V6 and a Twinnie needs part no 1024-140. Does anyone know who is right?
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I have been offered a set of secondhand Eibach springs that have done less than 1000 miles for a very reasonable price. They are part number 1018-140 and the seller assures me they fit both a V6 and a Twinnie. Looking on the Eibach webpage they fit all GTVs but looking at Alfashop the 1018-040 is for the V6 and a Twinnie needs part no 1024-140. Does anyone know who is right?
I recently fitted Suplex springs and Koni orange to the front of my V6, there was nothing wrong with the old dampers (original Alfa) and compressing them manually they felt exactly the same as the new Koni orange, it was the springs that really did need changing. you are welcome to these Alfa dampers if you want to pick em up.
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I recently fitted Suplex springs and Koni orange to the front of my V6, there was nothing wrong with the old dampers (original Alfa) and compressing them manually they felt exactly the same as the new Koni orange, it was the springs that really did need changing. you are welcome to these Alfa dampers if you want to pick em up.
Many thanks for the offer but I don't think V6 shocks will fit my Twinnie. Interesting to learn that it was the springs rather than shocks that needed replacing.

How are you finding the new set up?
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Many thanks for the offer but I don't think V6 shocks will fit my Twinnie. Interesting to learn that it was the springs rather than shocks that needed replacing.

How are you finding the new set up?
Front feels more positive with better turn in. Rear has suplex and KYB's fitted not that long ago, rear mainly superlexed and adjusted camber by elongating top ball joint mounting holes. Overall handles quite well but on undulating road surfaces the rear in still a bit bouncy, but it is a weird set up after all.
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Front feels more positive with better turn in. Rear has suplex and KYB's fitted not that long ago, rear mainly superlexed and adjusted camber by elongating top ball joint mounting holes. Overall handles quite well but on undulating road surfaces the rear in still a bit bouncy, but it is a weird set up after all.
Thanks again for the advice. I guess it will always be a compromise between road holding and ride quality when looking at Spring and shock combos. KYBs are looking like the obvious choice for the back. Not sure about the front and it's a toss up between Eibach and Suplex for springs (and how much cash I have in my slush fund for the Alfa that the Mrs knows nothing about).
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