New Tyre's Needed!

So the time has come, i need new rubber for a set of 18's. i was thinking something a bit different. ive had Pzero Rosso on my 17's and PZero Nero's on my 19's.

i was thinking PZero corsa's or the new simply branded 'PZero' i know the Corsa's are a bit more trackday stuff but they are street legal, also the new PZero rubber is out.

What do you guys think. i only use the car at weekends and a few nights, so it wont be doing alot of mileage, only around 5,000 a yr.

Cheers
ET

Originally Posted by ElTigro_UK

So the time has come, i need new rubber for a set of 18's. i was thinking something a bit different. ive had Pzero Rosso on my 17's and PZero Nero's on my 19's.

I was thinking PZero corsa's or the new simply branded 'PZero' i know the Corsa's are a bit more trackday stuff but they are street legal, also the new PZero rubber is out.

What do you guys think. I only use the car at weekends and a few nights, so it wont be doing alot of mileage, only around 5,000 a yr.

Cheers
ET

Corsa's are suicidal in the wet..... , so if you also want to drive the car if the weather is not sunny, don't get the Corsa's...

Originally Posted by jwq

Corsa's are suicidal in the wet..... , so if you also want to drive the car if the weather is not sunny, don't get the Corsa's...

lmao, ok!!! so im fancying the new Pzero's then, cant seem to find anyone stocking them yet!

ET

Hi - did you read the review in autocar last month? They rated the pzeros vs equivalent top 5 brands and they came out bottom for stopping distance dry, road noise and stopping distance wet. The Michelins got the best overall test results.

Use the search luke... lots threads on this already

I personally recommend the Michelin PS2's... not cheap, but grip/stop/etc great, and wear rate is low as well.

Just got Goodyear Eagle F1's, excellent value for money and awesome perfomance. Better than the Falkens i recently had.

Originally Posted by TallPaul

Use the search luke... lots threads on this already

I personally recommend the Michelin PS2's... not cheap, but grip/stop/etc great, and wear rate is low as well.

Seconded!

Can't praise these tyres enough

Thirded! PS2's are superb, best road tyre I have ever tried.
Especially suitable for very powerful FWD cars, and amazinging in the dry without compromising wet grip.

The new goodyear GSD3 released this year is rated highly too by new reviews, I have only tried the previous ones, but the PS2 was definitely better than the old ones (had several sets of each in all circumstances on road and track).

Originally Posted by Trailbraker

Thirded! PS2's are superb, best road tyre I have ever tried.
Especially suitable for very powerful FWD cars, and amazinging in the dry without compromising wet grip.

The new goodyear GSD3 released this year is rated highly too by new reviews, I have only tried the previous ones, but the PS2 was definitely better than the old ones (had several sets of each in all circumstances on road and track).

looks like ps2's then!!!

ET

pfft im easily swayyed!!! looking for them mail order, the cheapest i can source is blackcircles at 126.00

ET - if you're a member of Costco (or know someone that is) you can get them for just a shade over £100 fitted!

My GTA was delivered with Bridgestone Potenza RE-050's fitted and they were great tyres... comfortable, grippy, quiet and very tactile with instant turn-in, right up to the point where they had virtually no tread remaining.

Bridgestone UAE were "unable/unwilling" to supply replacement 050's other than run-flats, and were also "unable/unwilling" to import RE-001R's, so I had no option but to go for Michelin PS2's. The PS2's were very expensive, and did not have quite the same level of tactility and turn-in as the Bridgestones. They also degraded and began to squeal and squawk long before they reached the wear limits, so I did not wish to fit another set of PS2's.

With Bridgestone UAE being still "unable" to supply RE-050's other than run-flats and refusing to acknowledge the existence of RE-001R's, I have just had to fit Bridgestone Potenza RE-001 Adrenalin's.

I find the RE-001's to be OK and I prefer them to the PS2's, but their bite on change of direction is slightly woolly, and although they are good "sporty" tyres I think they were probably designed to accommodate a wider cross-section of drivers as opposed to the hard core performance driver.

AM

Originally Posted by alfa_aficionado

ET - if you're a member of Costco (or know someone that is) you can get them for just a shade over £100 fitted!

really? eesh. i have a costco card IIRC cause i have my own business. snds good!!!

ET

Sounds like the PS2 is more suited to UK than UAE, common with tyres, you need to be careful on forums with tyres as they work differently at different temperatures/ humidities and obviously the difference between dry dusty roads and damp greasy ones!

@AM just wondering do you drive on very rough roads?

While I do trust your experience accurately reflects what you encountered - I'm having difficulty relating it to the 5 sets of PS2's I have tortured in every way possible.

They have been so quiet and long lasting in my experience - and I generally do a few track days with them into the bargain introducing huge heat stress due to the extra torque of my car that used to reduce goodyears F1's into a pile of warm jelly like goo. ( although F1s were fine with a standard GTA, and a good tyre overall, except for refinement).

..such abuse didn't seem to do the PS's any harm for my normal relatively mixed daily driving afterwards.


I wonder is it possible that different compounds are used for different markets with different geographical conditions (I think I remember reading that this ws the case for Goodyears F1 GSD3's, the scare related to cheap imports into Europe from markets where the quality was completely different).

Cheers,
TB

TB, what is the country of origin on your PS2? My father in law had a set on his SLK recently. He is so happy about it and it stated on the sidewall "Made in Japan".

I'll check later if I can..

[quote=Trailbraker;1422912While I do trust your experience accurately reflects what you encountered - I'm having difficulty relating it to the 5 sets of PS2's I have tortured in every way possible.
[/QUOTE]

I also have the PS2's, after using Bridgestone in the past. I like the PS2s much better. Also used them on a couple of trackdays, very happy with them...

(Have my winter tires on now )

Originally Posted by Trailbraker

@AM just wondering do you drive on very rough roads?

While I do trust your experience accurately reflects what you encountered - I'm having difficulty relating it to the 5 sets of PS2's I have tortured in every way possible.

They have been so quiet and long lasting in my experience - and I generally do a few track days with them into the bargain introducing huge heat stress due to the extra torque of my car that used to reduce goodyears F1's into a pile of warm jelly like goo. ( although F1s were fine with a standard GTA, and a good tyre overall, except for refinement).

..such abuse didn't seem to do the PS's any harm for my normal relatively mixed daily driving afterwards.


I wonder is it possible that different compounds are used for different markets with different geographical conditions (I think I remember reading that this ws the case for Goodyears F1 GSD3's, the scare related to cheap imports into Europe from markets where the quality was completely different).

Cheers,
TB

Hi TB.

I have tried to contact the UAE Michelin manager but for the past few days he has not been available.

From what you plus other users have said, I do suspect that my PS2's were probably of a different compound to the UK/European spec' as they really were a big disappointment after the Bridgestone RE-050's, and the RE-001's which I now have are much better in all respects, and now that they are well scrubbed in they have a sharp and predictable turn-in

AM

Has anyone tried GSD3 Goodyears with the v shaped pattern on them? I bought my 147 with these cars and always considered the chassis as a poor and wobbly chassis which needed constant correction on the slightest of bumpy surface at speed. The grip from these tyres was great especially in the wet and i never doubted their ability. I ordered another set for the front but when fitted had a boring conventional pattern but where still GSD3 code tyres..

Within 1 minute of driving the car felt like someone had fitted new suspension and bushes and now I feel like the car can actually be driven quickly without being terrifying. It is certainly no real sports wagon but now it is acceptable.

Be warned if you have the v groove shaped GSD3's and your chassis feels poor maybe you have the same effects as I had.

I fitted PS2's yesterday after reading this thread.

On the way home I hit a big pot hole at 50 km/h.
Big bubble on one of the front tyre's sidewall.

The car is currently back for another new tyre. Hope the rim is not damaged.
It is such a waste of money!

Bleedin bad luck GTAmad.
Low profile rims and potholes aren't a great combination.

My years of owning a 2.0L 156 twinny SP2 (that would bottom out going over a cigarette box) sharpened my pothole detector senses I can tell you!

Michelin came back to me today and are going to give me a refund (15%) as a goodwill gesture. Quite welcome.

I did some spirited driving over the weekend and am very happy with the PS2's.

Trailbraker: I am usually quite good at missing the potholes, but it was raining and the hole was full of water. I just saw it too late.

Originally Posted by GTA Mad

Michelin came back to me today and are going to give me a refund (15%) as a goodwill gesture. Quite welcome.

I did some spirited driving over the weekend and am very happy with the PS2's.

Trailbraker: I am usually quite good at missing the potholes, but it was raining and the hole was full of water. I just saw it too late.

eesh wot a bummer, still waiting for my ps2's got them for 125 each off mytyres.co.uk?!?!? i think lol

anyways ive been tracking them online, coming from germany lol.

shud b here 2mora, will let u know wot i think.

now off to give these brakes a good clean and polish when the alloys r off.

ET