gta belts etc

hi all,
going to look at 156 gta sportwagon 03 with 31000 on clock garage have said they will change belts and tensioners could anyone explain what exactly should be changed it is v6.
thanks bob

Originally Posted by bob c

hi all,
going to look at 156 gta sportwagon 03 with 31000 on clock garage have said they will change belts and tensioners could anyone explain what exactly should be changed it is v6.
thanks bob

Very interested as well...

Not a thing at that miles , 72,000 is the 1st its should be done,(unless the belt looks like its a bit tired), Garages will tell you loads of ******** , the car should be mint @ those miles tho'

Originally Posted by mritaly

Not a thing at that miles , 72,000 is the 1st its should be done,(unless the belt looks like its a bit tired), Garages will tell you loads of ******** , the car should be mint @ those miles tho'

Reading the forum it seems to be the general consensus that the belts should be changed every 36k or three years...

Phil

Mmm, Not sure I'd let a 24v V6 go the full 72k, they can chuck belts and as bob is only going to look at the car I don't think they'll be telling him there's much wrong with it

You might want to throw in a metal impellor'd water pump while they're in there

wrinx

Originally Posted by Phil_D

Reading the forum it seems to be the general consensus that the belts should be changed every 36k or three years...

Phil

Not V6s

wrinx

thanks for replys but it is probably certain i will buy this car if it is as described it has full alfa history.
this will be my first alfa so am confused to belt mileage change could someone confirm what should be done to protect my engine at 31000 miles.
thanks from a novice
bob

Originally Posted by wrinx

Not V6s

wrinx

Really ???

me again,
what is cost of water pump and is it an alfa main dealer part
thanks again
bob

Try www.shop4parts.co.uk or EB spares

wrinx

Originally Posted by Phil_D

Really ???

Opinions are slightly divided but it's the Twinsparks that REALLY need ot be changed every 36-40k. 24v V6s can go more than that....I'd guess 50k to be safe, but you make your own mind up

wrinx

Thats really good to know mate cheers

Phil

thanks from me also.
here's hoping i will be an alfa owner next weekend i'm sure it's going to be different from i'm used to.by the way this is a great website and people seem very helpfull
cheers bob

Thanks for your comments...we have our moments

wrinx

I write this regularly on this forum:
Alfa Romeo Australia recommend timing belt changes for both 4 cylinder and V6 engines at 60,000kms OR 3 years, whichever comes first. It's your money.... Mine was changed at 3 years after 33,000 kms travelled.

Anyone know all the parts that are required for a full belt change on the V6...I want to replace all tensioners, belts and water pump but there seem to be different tensioners available i.e fixed and adjustalbe, large and small....

A list would be very useful

Cheers

Phil

My local mechanic/garage owner said that cambelt failure was most common by far on the T-sparks, and the primary cause of it was that the tensioners on the T-sparks were crap!
Basically he said they were very poorly secured (I think he used the term "falling off") , and this was not an issue on the V6's.

In his experience at least V6 belt failure was very rare, although I certainly would not wait the 72000km myself.

(I don't have enough details myself to give a list)

Cheers,
TB

Originally Posted by wrinx

Opinions are slightly divided but it's the Twinsparks that REALLY need ot be changed every 36-40k. 24v V6s can go more than that....I'd guess 50k to be safe, but you make your own mind up

wrinx

The list Phil_D mentioned would be very useful to me too. The cambelt change on my 147 GTA is due quite soon and I'm planning on sourcing the parts beforehand and a list of needed parts would be very useful.

Originally Posted by Phil_D

Anyone know all the parts that are required for a full belt change on the V6...I want to replace all tensioners, belts and water pump but there seem to be different tensioners available i.e fixed and adjustalbe, large and small....

A list would be very useful

Yes, especially V6s.....

36k km or 3 years. My garage already head a GTA with serious damage due to belt breaking, with less then 36k but 4 years or so...

Originally Posted by wrinx

Not V6s

wrinx

check the following link

http://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/alfa-...lt-change.html

So i need to buy

Cam belt
Tensioner
Idlers x 2
Water pump
Anc belt

Anything else ???

Originally Posted by Trailbraker

My local mechanic/garage owner said that cambelt failure was most common by far on the T-sparks, and the primary cause of it was that the tensioners on the T-sparks were crap!
Basically he said they were very poorly secured (I think he used the term "falling off") , and this was not an issue on the V6's.

In his experience at least V6 belt failure was very rare, although I certainly would not wait the 72000km myself.

(I don't have enough details myself to give a list)

Cheers,
TB

The first destroyed alfa engine I saw was a 2.0 TS at alfaaid, failed due to the plastic tensioner had disintegrated. I hade a 75 2.0 TS at the time and after that was glad it was the older 8v with a chain driven cam.

Personally my GTA has done about 30k and 3 years old now, intend on changing the belt next year and certainly wouldn't risk 5yrs 72k.

I think we need to be very careful because it seams that miles & km recommendations are getting confused here.

ie: "jwq" has just said "36k km or 3-years", surely that recommendation would have been 36000miles or 3-years, which is 60000km.

I've seen that Aus service bulletin and it does say 60000km / 3-years for both the TS/JTS & V6 engines.

It is true that the early TS tensioners fell apart, but also the teeth will be falling off of the belts by the time it gets to 6-years/120000km/72000miles. So even if the tensioners survive the belt will be close to slipping anyway.

Yep, sorry, 60k km or 3 years.....
However, I think for the majority 3 yrs will come up before the 60k anyway ...