Is this manifold any good?

fewleh · #1 (**Post Link**) 03-08-12

Hi, I found this manifold for sale, and just wondering if someone can explain a bit more about it - it looks like a stainless steel v6 manifold.. but what is it? Is it custom made, or is it from a different alfa model? Is it the supersprint ones?

Also, they seem to have a lot of extra piping on them compared to the normal v6 manifolds I've seen, do these have downpipes attached already or something? So this would fit straight onto the cat section below the car? Cheers for any clarification

They look pretty tidy and wondering if I can use them to replace the cf3 mani's. Would be even better if I didn't need to buy more downpipes ! Although I'm sure these will sell for quite a lot of money.. maybe? Maybe I can get a bargain

silvervalver · #2 (**Post Link**) 03-08-12

Are those the tubistyle replicas that were on eBay a while ago? I never looked at them but sure try were discussed.

Those have been made up in sections, so are probably custom rather than jigged.

edward · #3 (**Post Link**) 03-08-12

I think that may be a Supersprint manifold.

Can't base that on an awful lot, just some long distant memory of seeing some pictures from a few years back....

fewleh · #4 (**Post Link**) 03-08-12

Originally Posted by edward

I think that may be a Supersprint manifold.

Can't base that on an awful lot, just some long distant memory of seeing some pictures from a few years back....

I added 2 more photos, maybe that gives you some more clues?

If they are supersprint, and have the front pipes built in already... well.. they might do just the job.. Doesn't mention anything in the ad

fewleh · #5 (**Post Link**) 03-08-12

Originally Posted by silvervalver

Are those the tubistyle replicas that were on eBay a while ago? I never looked at them but sure try were discussed.

Those have been made up in sections, so are probably custom rather than jigged.

Hmm, wonder if they are any good? They look pretty smart. Brand new too.

edit: Here is some text I just got off the seller in a pm -

manifold made of stainless steel for the Alfa V6 24V engine
This racing exhaust manifold (not street legal) promises by the changed flue with increase of up to 27HP (depending on engine) and it gives your car a very aggressive sound.
The manifold is NEW and unused, comes complete with 3 pipes (diameter approx 42mm) for the rear and 3 pipes (diameter approx 42mm) for the front cylinder bank, the three tubes each running in a collector and then through a thick pipe (approx. 62mm) to the main catalytic converter (s) performed.

I'm guessing they are only street illegal due to the removal of cats I guess? Netherlands / Germany must be more strict on that.

I wish I didn't have to do so much guessing :P

Can someone confirm these already have the front pipes attached (equal length or not - I don't mind) ?

edward · #6 (**Post Link**) 03-08-12

http://www.supersprint.com/public/images/26357.jpg

This is the image I was thinking of.

fewleh · #7 (**Post Link**) 03-08-12

hmm, they are definately not the same... I think SV might be on to something with his tubi style replicas .. Ill do a bit of searching

fewleh · #8 (**Post Link**) 03-08-12

hmm, don't tihnk they are tubistyle either - http://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/alfa-...-for-sale.html (Exclusive - 147 GTA Exhaust Manifolds Handmade by Tubistyle for sale.)

Must just be a custom job by some chap? They look pretty tidy from what I can see..

edward · #9 (**Post Link**) 03-08-12

Are you sure they are not the supersprint ones. You may well be right - but worth a second look....

Have a look at this:

http://www.supersprint.com/public/images/35728.jpg

And then have a look at your second image (the RHS one) and imagine springs on the clips on that image. Can you see where I am coming from.

Just a thought.... more than happy to be wrong. You may well have spotted a notable difference between the 2 that I have not seen.

Saabretooth · #10 (**Post Link**) 03-08-12

These look really good. but I hope the internals are well sorted out. If its not free flowing or if there are lipped out welds, it will create turbulence in the exhaust and slow it done, or cause hotspots.

other than that, I'd say its a very good 27hp going your way.....

AYAT · #11 (**Post Link**) 03-08-12

Not supersprint or tubistyle but definately have front pipes included in the design, I'd you don't want them let me know where there advertised ill be interested, how much r they advertised for.

fewleh · #12 (**Post Link**) 03-08-12

I've asked the seller what they are.. if they are custom made, or a supersprint or something similar.. Then, if I grab them along with a gearbox off him, at least they will be here in the UK, and I can ship them to whoever wants them at the price I got them for should I decide not to use them - which after looking at my bank, I might have to cancel all plans

And sell some stuff.

Wil look a bit close later Edward at your detective work .. gotta rush out

AYAT · #13 (**Post Link**) 03-08-12

Defo get them if u can.

Dr GTA · #14 (**Post Link**) 03-08-12

Just for the record.. 27HP is rediculous. At the most 10.

fewleh · #15 (**Post Link**) 03-08-12

Agreed, although there are some dyno sheets showing 15 HP I think, maybe even 20 at a push- I can't remember exactly.. (just for decat manis in general, not these ones specifically).. But nowhere near 27

fewleh · #16 (**Post Link**) 03-08-12

oioi, did you find them AYAT? they have gone up by 150 euros in the last 30 minutes

Username looks like might be yours? They do look like they will be out my budget by the time they finish tbh, they look like expensive pieces, so not to worry

AYAT · #17 (**Post Link**) 03-08-12

Mate that isn't my style but I am interested and would like to bid so pm the link if I do get it I will see if it can be replicated. My username is ayat4347

SLM3CFC · #18 (**Post Link**) 03-08-12

Great idea ayat, I wonder how much it would cost for replicas of that set.

#19 (**Post Link**) 04-08-12

Replicate replicas ?
They are SS replicas, but not perfect replicas, more like SS look-a-likes.

SLM3CFC · #20 (**Post Link**) 04-08-12

Unless someone has a supersprint set that they can get an estimate for copying then yes replicate a replica. Have you seen the replica manifolds in real life? and have you seen the internals?

#21 (**Post Link**) 04-08-12

As is the case for everything, copies degrade the more you copy them.

Darth Vader · #22 (**Post Link**) 04-08-12

They could be Madeno racing manifolds, they're from holland if I remember. They used to do quite a bit of gear for our cars as, carbon body panels, brakes and engine bits but don't know about now. They won't stay shiny after they are installed and the sound will change. They are deffo not super sprint

tim0172 · #23 (**Post Link**) 04-08-12

They are copies of Supersprint made by AW-DELTA in germany, i know because i bought one about 2 months ago for my engine project
I think for the price i paid they are ok but they still need some work. The pipes dont line up as they should and the welds inside need some grinding.

Tim

Stephen Manjai · #24 (**Post Link**) 04-08-12

Another way to sort this is to get yourselves Alfa 166 3.0 headers from a 99 model euro 2 before they had the silly cats on the headers or from the 916 3.0 GTV of the same year, then fabricate your own downpipes, or get the set from Gus Lambrou at Alfatune in Merseyside... He has an adapter kit to go with the 166 headers cos they come down lower than the GTV ones and i think the flange is different. Speak to him.. he's really clued up on these kinds of issues..

He told me that Alfa headers flow great in stock form and it's not really worth it to fabricate headers when you compare the costs with the power difference. When i drive my car, the torque is much better all the way but the best at 4,000 RPM upwards all they way to 7,000 when it redlines... the throttle response is also much better cos it feels like she revs much easier... and yeah the crackling and poping on upchanges in winter is really cool..

I fabricated my own headers because the shipping quotes were high and i was tight for money at the time.. These are the ones i made up myself with a friend.. I took these pics during fabrication so not all the welds were complete at the time.. Now we are fabricating the rear bits.. until the cat back Remus exhaust on the car..

fewleh · #25 (**Post Link**) 04-08-12

Originally Posted by tim0172

They are copies of Supersprint made by AW-DELTA in germany, i know because i bought one about 2 months ago for my engine project
I think for the price i paid they are ok but they still need some work. The pipes dont line up as they should and the welds inside need some grinding.

Tim

Sorry Ayat, didn't mean to accuse you, just looked a bit suspicious

but I'm sure it's not you.It still has a day and half to go on auction, will pm you if it goes up past my limit..

That's some good info Tim... thanks . Do you mind letting me know what you did pay, so I can understand what they're worth, and how much I should bid on these parts? I also sent an email to AW DELTA asking about a small group buy / and asked how much they cost and for more information, will update you guys when I found out more

Stephen, you mean you made your own manifolds up? and downpipes? it's a little confusing.. But fair play to you if so.. is it something you could reproduce for some of us? Cheers, Olly

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