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Hi folks... The factory mount is not very strong as the design is inherently weak. I have seen these mounts fail in near new cars with less than 20,000km. I have overcome the problem by redesigning the bush and replacing it with my own purpose made rubber bush. Note this is not an application for a urethane bush as the mounting needs to articulate and is under a torsional load even in the 'dead' position. The duro of the redesigned, stronger rubber bush is critical to be able to deal with this torsional side load without transferring unwanted stresses to other components. I can only make these bushes in one of lots at the moment as I reuse the original shell and ferrule. Larger quantities can be made but as I am not a parts retailer I don't have a shop front to sell them from.

On the O.E. mount you will find that it is the front bush (top of engine) that fails and that the rear bush last a lot longer. Having said that they are both the same and both suffer the same inherent design weakness. The engine bush is the one that cops the hammering which is why it tears at the base of the void. If you are using the o.e. style bush you should factor on it failing frequently. Replace them both at the same time as the rear mount will also be showing signs of wear.

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I have experienced quite a bit of vibrations in idle, for some time and after reading this thread I got this new piece installed yesterday. The the rubber in the old one was completely blown out. The car has done 78k kilometres and I had the whole engine out a couple of months a go after the differential exploded. I think the re-mounting of the engine might have killed the rubber-piece.

WHAT a huge difference this has made to the car -it just runs much smoother now throughout the full rev range, and vibrations I previously thougt were comming from my tyres are all the sudden gone.

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Well ive been out to check the condition of my top mount and here are the pictures of how knackered it is :-(

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...4082009522.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...4082009523.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...4082009525.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...4082009524.jpg

Looks like a good place to start to resolve my juddering problem.

Where are the best places to buy a replacement quality part from? I see Ebspares is fairly popular!

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I'm struggling to find the mount on Eb spares, does anyone know if they definatly still sell it?

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Is this the right part for the 2.5 V6: Engine 3.2 GTA for Alfa 147

Says GTA and 147 so wanted to check.

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Yes, 60652740 is also listed by EB Spares for the 156 2.5 litre too. You'll find it with the 156 engine/cam belt bits.
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Just checked mine, but properly this time (Jasons pictures very helpful, thanks).

Before now I've checked by just trying to rock the engine, and it's seemed fine. But on looking at the mount itself in more detail, I can easily move the mount back and forwards along the length of the bolt attaching it to the engine, and that prompting even closer inspection, the rubber is in poor condition.

People talk about only needing to ando 2 bolts - it is attached to the engine side by bolt too, right?
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one bolt on engine side, one bolt on chassis side. 10 min job max
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Ah right. So the metal plate which attaches it to the turret isn't included? You retain the one already on the car?
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yeah, everything else stays, it's just the 2 bolts come out, slip out the old steady, slip the new one in and put the bolts back in... bobs your uncle
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But if you're replacing the rear bush as well, there are 2 more bolts (at least there are on the 166).
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God knows. I'll wait till the part appears and judge from that!
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166 must be different, the GTA fr and rr bush are all in the one piece.
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Anyone know if this part is handed?
Can't quite decide whether it can go on either way, or has to be a particular way round.
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Anyone know if this part is handed?
Can't quite decide whether it can go on either way, or has to be a particular way round.
I believe it is, when I changed mine the original part had an arrow marker on it showing correct orientation. The replacement part did not and it took a while to suss out which way it fitted (very subtle differences) or though in the end I think it will only fit well one way.
 
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Yep, pretty much found the same myself. The difference is very subtle, but it is different in different orientations. I took the printing on the replacement as a clue and put it aginst the old part with that the right way up - and it was indeed the right way.

Old one completely knackered at the engine end. Only when I got the new one and realised the rubber on it is completely stiff that I was aware how bad the old floppy one was.
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My Autodelta exhaust keeps being pulled forward making the hanger pop out from the rubber. I suspected this is the result of a knackered top engine mount. Checked and yup - its split rubber everywhere. Odd that Alexanders didnt spot it during the cambelt change either !
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Well i got my new top mount, you can see the difference in the link below:

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...4092009619.jpg

Initially was great, fitted it and most of my judder was gone untill about 2-3 weeks ago when it came back with a vengence, see my threads here:

http://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/alfa-...ng-clutch.html

http://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/alfa-...ng-clutch.html

Any ideas would be appreciated.

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[QUOTE=jason_app;2916260]Well i got my new top mount, you can see the difference in the link below:

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...4092009619.jpg

which one is the new one?!
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You checked the tightness of the bolts?
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You checked the tightness of the bolts?
Since fitting u mean? yea they r good.
 
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mine looks lovely now. Hasnt stopped the zorst pulling forward and out of the hanger tho.
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