So forget the BMW talk, this is an Alfa Romeo forum, I want to talk Giulia, I have no intention of even crossing the threshold of a BMW showroom.
So, who is going to their Alfa Dealer in April, that is if you havent already been, to talk details, and which engine spec are you looking at? I'm looking to buy a 200bhp petrol with something like a Lusso type trim level. Whats yours?
petrol, turbo, Super with sports package, will be a while before the 280 comes out, so might check the 200. Have discussed likely pricing with my dealer and can expect something along the lines of the 3.2 Ti 159 equivalent pricing in Aust (which was high 60's AUD)
may even look at how much the 19inch "maltese cross" wheels will cost
I had a 159 in oltramare Blue over here in the UK. Looked class.
Anyhow onto the giulia. I have got abit of pondering to do, my 159 SW is getting on abit at 8 yrs old with 135K on the clock (its having its MOT next week and its started to shudder at high speeds - im hoping its just needs a diesel clean out and not the DMF). I can afford to buy a new giulia and it will be in diesel spec (180bhp) as i do 20k miles a yr. But i would rather a sportwagon and if there was one i would be queing outside the dealership on 15th April with my order, but theres not. So do i wait and hope one follows shortly or wait for the "Stelvio" which may or may not follow 6 months later or compromise and get the giulia and hope the boot is large enough for all my 2 kids stuff. Decisions decisions but good ones - Either way Alfa all the way!!:grin:
I am ready to order but would like a test drive first, have contacted dealer and waiting for info ref specs etc, looks like the petrol, 17 sport alloys with luxury pack, colour wise, not sure down to white, blue or red, never had a white car but it shows the lines so well. Cannot wait, irs like xmas lol
Waiting on pricing and more info for the 280. Still undecided. I want to like it but I fear Alfa UK will get greedy with pricing, and I'm still not sure I want another auto.
Going on whats been announced at the Geneva motor show i'll probably have wait a bit longer. Don't have the need for a diesel, not keen on automatics which are the only option on petrol versions (apart from QV).
I believe new car sales are 70-80% PCP, will be interesting to see how FCA compete with the Germans and there 'Deposit contributions' deals.
I'd love to get one in April but I don't think we ( in Canada) will see a 2.0gas version until october/november... and I would need an AWD...RWD doesn't do well in 20 cm of snow and ice!
I'm pretty sure that the order book will open in September for the UK. The UK product manager told me that the UK info and those email updates (that everyone signed up to and heard nothing) will start in April.
On the service side, I took the Giulietta into the dealers last month and have had calls from the dealer and a marketing company on behalf of Alfa. The dealer did at least provide an Alfa courtesy car this time and you don't have to go to the Ford service desk anymore, so it may well be that Alfa are pushing the dealer side more.
Anyway... my Giulietta PCP finishes next April, hopefully there will be some cars for demo in the autumn and if there's no negative equity on mine then I might change when I've seen the car interiors and can test drive. I think I'd enjoy having a Giulia more by having one early... before they become too common (haha).
From the configurator, I quite like the Monza red with the 17 Sport wheels. I've got two Alfa red cars at the moment but I'm not convinced that it will look as good on a bigger car (although when I did see the handful of Alfa red 159s out there I did like them). A 200hp petrol should be enough for me (I quite liked the 159 1750) and should be in the ballpark of the Giulietta Multiair performance. Only thing is though is that I'd hope that a manual was available by the time the UK ordering starts... I'm not sure about an auto, although if it's got paddle shift it might not be too bad. And I guess that 8 speed means you don't get clobbered on fuel like you used to.
Nope.............After years of Alfas I have just moved to a BMW M Sport. Took me nearly 3 months to make the decision. The new model launch dates just kept going back, so enough was enough. :depressed:
Will wait and see what happens over the next couple of years, model launches, cost price, depreciation etc. If the Abarth 124 Spider is the an example of the Groups cost model, then another BMW will be the next car. :banghead:
BMW isn't (and shouldn't be) worried about Alfa Romeo. Even if the Giulia will have superior dynamics and performance, BMW will still sell 10 times more.
Not sure what the 124 Spider has to do with much except more delays. Went in to ask the local Fiat dealer about them and they say the UK won't get any until next year. Not sure if that's Fiat incompetence or dealer?
Ive put back buying a new car as i want to test drive the 200hp giulia before i spend my hard earned.Ive always bought 1 year old cars to let the niggles surface so id more than likely do the same again but the giulia is right at the top of my list of possibles (i wont post what is number 2/3 etc etc )
But by looks alone the giulia is a winner in my eyes :thumbup:
Potentially yes. As the other half wants my car and keeps bugging me about it, I'm actively researching again. If I can get a demo car to test out the Giliua QV properly, it might on the cards.. I didn't like the M3 so this is the only alternative as of the moment.
Why does it matter? Why get touchy when people mention the words BMW? Nobody cares if you irrationally dislike <insert car manufacturer here> and / or want?
Perhaps because that's why HE started the thread. Just a thought.
I saw a Dodge Charger in Kensington yesterday, the replacement of which will be Giulia based, and thought how far off the lean efficient ideal it's come from the rebirth heralded by the 4C. The light and efficient direction seemed to make so much sense to me , leaving the V8 thing to Maserati and the US product.
When is it actually on sale in uk? September or earlier?
Can anyone recommend a dealer to request info from? I don't want to go near western again
I'm in a pcp on an m135 just now until 2018 so it'll have to be pretty special to get me out of this wee beasty (don't understand the BMW hate tbh they are amazing cars if you stay away from the lower level stuff)
Theres no hate of BMW's, but its the bombardment of how great BMW's are and how Alfa Romeo should be better than them to sell anything. If I want to know about BMW I'm sure they have forums, just like the ALFA ROMEO forum.
I won't be buying the Giulia as soon as it comes out, be it April or September, mainly because I'm waiting to see how the 280/330bhp models compare price wise with the Q. But also, the dealers will know early buyers will be making 'emotional' purchases giving the buyer very little to no bargaining power, à la 4C.
Wait a year, gauge the model variants released, reliability, depreciation and competitor prices (I wont mention the B word!) Go in with a rational head and you'll have a much more bargaining power. Unless of course you're willing to pay the premium, because lets face it, it's a beautiful car!
Take your point Gaz, the early bugs is one thing, something I can live with, my dealer is the other end of the village so no big problem. As for pricing, I believe the pricing has to be aggressive and Alfa will want the cars to be seen on the road, 4C is another thing, a very limited market.
I think they will be competitively priced, though I've got the suspicion given the release models; pricing will (initially at least) be focused at business/fleet customers for volume... at the expense of retail customers.
An inflated retail/list price bolsters the desirability for them used and boosts the residuals if controlled properly, as discussed before. That's why customers are encouraged to go the pcp route so that they can be kept in the system and earn money for the manufacturer and dealer and their credit arm for a second time. This is what Alfa need to master for the Giulia; competitive list prices aren't necessarily a good sign. Again, as we've discussed on the forum at length....
I'd prefer Western to Clark any day. Western Edinburgh were good for me but, sadly, Tony has now left to go to Ford which is a shame as he was a damned fine salesman.
No it's not bad but you'll get a better deal from Alfa on a brand new one now as opposed to when they first came out...
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