Where can i get coil overs for TS 75??

[tigertown]

Need to get it lowered!!

Can you slam 75's to the deck, VW style? Car sits so high!!!

Need either coilovers or lowering springs will do, cant seem to find any for 75?

[purple145]

Ron Simons does coilovers for the 75, as do Gaz I think it is, however

a) you can lower the front anyway by adjustment of the front torsion bars,and lowering springs on the rear, however this can create handling issues as the other meaurements are affected in doing so

b) have you seen how low the engine is anyway, you will simply take the sump off on the first speed bump if you drop it VW style.

[Rune R.]

Intrax

[dcystar147]

Alex Jupe Motorsport supply RS (I think) coilovers.
Alex is probably one of the most experienced guys around when it comes to lowering 75's.

It's not a job to take on lightly. You can buy lowering springs for the rear no problem, but lowering the front significantly with the torsion bars is a really bad idea. You can't increase the spring rate without buying upgraded torsion bars (available from the states £300-£400 a pair!) so you'll just rip of the exhaust/sump on the first bump. It is possible to get assist springs which work with the torsion bar. This allows lowering on the torsion bar with an increased spring rate. Think Alex could advise on this.

The other issue is geometry. 75's (and the other Alfa transaxles) drive really nicely with the geometry right. Lowering it on the cheap will wreck the geometry and make it a pig.

Might work out fine if you only want to cruise down the high street at 20 MPH, otherwise don't.

[Le Man]

Buy some Konis and keep to the standard geometry

[shiny_car]

As above, RS Racing is the way to go, end of story. I've been tempted to buy the kit advertised here (if you're in the UK, it'll work out a good price; less so for me in Australia):
Alfa Romeo Classifieds - Auctions - RSRacing Coilovers - Alfetta GTV6 / 75 - Powered by PhotoPost Classifieds
I just bought the RS Racing Watts linkage kit from this same seller; kit is en route, but really great guy to deal with.

EDIT: I received the Watts kit today. I paid on the 27 Mar and received 31 Mar, UK to AUS. Awesome seller!

I haven't researched spring rates yet. I'm building a 'fast street' car that won't see the track, and want it slammed too. I suspect that their softest springs may be too soft if it's really low, so the above kit could be perfect. But you can check their website for options:
AlfaRomeo-PerformanceParts (powered by CubeCart)

And you can of course buy directly from them.

[K18 NOB]

[QUOTE=dcystar147;4050569]You can't increase the spring rate without buying upgraded torsion bars (available from the states £300-£400 a pair!) so you'll just rip of the exhaust/sump on the first bump. It is possible to get assist springs which work with the torsion bar. This allows lowering on the torsion bar with an increased spring rate. Think Alex could advise on this.QUOTE]

The RSR coilover kit comes with assist springs fitted to allow for that, their setup comes highly reccomended for track use along with the Arb kits they supply, I already have the coilover kit but its not fitted yet so cant comment personally on it. Im due to drive over to the ring this weekend all being well to collect the front and rear ARB kits and the watts linkage kit and De Dion bush.

I cant say how well the kit will do if your just planning to drop the car as low as you can.....might not be advisable IMO

[shiny_car]

I've seen a number of pics on the internet with the RSR kit fitted, that have been dumped pretty low. I suppose for the street, you're unlikely to drive at 10/10ths, or anywhere near it (or at least, I won't be; just not safe). From all reports, it's quite a 'streetable' setup; I just haven't read which spring-rates people are using, but I'll be asking for their advice when I buy the kit. I suspect with either the softest or second-softest springs, it'll be 'firm' but still grip ok (not be skittish across bumps) and retain decent comfort.

I rate my 155, with H&R front coilovers/rear spring-damper setup, as 'firm' and crashy, but still very livable for me. I recently drove my mate's 147GTA for a couple days, fitted with Bilstein B14 coilovers, and that was even firmer, but had much better chassis control so felt more composed overall; it was livable, but I'd become fatigued of that firmness on a regular basis. Either way, these are bench marks for me in terms of ride hardness.

[K18 NOB]

I fitted the rear suspension on mine the other week as i threw out the old stuff and i needed to put the axle back on to move the car, I set it to its lowest setting purely out of interest and this is how it sits....

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/n...2/IMG_0770.jpg

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/n...2/IMG_0702.jpg

But do bare in mind here my car is just a shell! The complete car with all the interior/fuel tank etc etc fitted would sit a bit lower still!

Im not sure what the spring rate of mine is as i asked RSR to send me what they reccomended for my car after id told them what the car was being used for and all i will say on it is it feels very stiff! Again once there is more weight on the springs i imagine it will be stiffer still!

[arguti]

Originally Posted by shiny_car

I've seen a number of pics on the internet with the RSR kit fitted, ....From all reports, it's quite a 'streetable' setup; I just haven't read which spring-rates people are using, but I'll be asking for their advice when I buy the kit. I suspect with either the softest or second-softest springs, it'll be 'firm' but still grip ok (not be skittish across bumps) and retain decent comfort.

I rate my 155, with H&R front coilovers/rear spring-damper setup, as 'firm' and crashy, but still very livable for me. I recently drove my mate's 147GTA for a couple days, fitted with Bilstein B14 coilovers, and that was even firmer, but had much better chassis control so felt more composed overall; it was livable, but I'd become fatigued of that firmness on a regular basis. Either way, these are bench marks for me in terms of ride hardness.

If you want to save yourselves a lot of time cruising the internet and forums, speak to someone like Alex Jupe, buy the RSR kit and be amazed.

I run a 155 as a daily driver and my weekend Alfetta GTV6 is totally transformed by the RSR kit.

Alex Jupe spent a lot of time (and my money ) setting it up properly, end result is that the car is totally street-comfortable (and far more comfortable) than a 155 even with eibachs etc but with the RSR

You can literally throw the GTV6 into any corner and it is virtually flat, totally maintaining composure, even better than an early chrome Alfasud sprint - best upgrade I have on any of my Alfas which include Alfasud Sprint, GTV5, 155 and 105 GT junior. It is no way crashy, over firm or uncomfortable which is what I was particularly concerned about- watch footage of any Alfetta racing and you will notice the considerable body roll - mostly eliminated with RSR.

PS The GTV6 steering is now also a lot lighter but Alex says that is due to the geometry being tweaked/optimised.

BUT speak to Alex first, he will tell you what works and more importantly, what doesn't.
his new number is 01243 575 760.
HTH

[shiny_car]

What springs rates do you run front/rear? What torsion bars, and what thickness ARBs?

Once I have the funds, I'll be contacting RSR directly for their advice on a setup to suit me (low street car): spring rates, keeping stock torsion bars, and advice on whether I should uprate the ARBs (happy not to).

[tigertown]

Cheers for these pointers guys.

[arguti]

Just be careful in that I asked Alex specifically about eibach springs for the Alfetta GTV (for my 2 litre not GTV6 as I was impressed with them on the 155, much less crashy) as I did not want to fork out for the complete RSR kit as I already have it on the GTV6 and he told me that the eibachs actually make the alfetta sit even higher than factory so recommended uprated GTV6 torsion bars at front with RSR 30mm front ARB and rear RSR springs with the rear spring height adjusters as an interim price solution as I have a set of bilstein shocks lying around.

For my GTV6 RSR, I think Alex Jupe went for a non-adjustable set up and chose the springs rates as he knows my style of driving. Best speak to the man himself. I suppose Ron Simons can advise further but good luck in actually trying to get to speak the man directly - Alex is RSR agent so knows his stuff.

PS I have no connection to Alex Jupe other than over the last 5 years or so, it appears that he is always busy on one of my Alfa projects.

[shiny_car]

Because I live in Australia, I'll be dealing directly with RSR.nl. I guess I'll email, and seek advice from whoever replies!

[arguti]

Originally Posted by shiny_car

Because I live in Australia, I'll be dealing directly with RSR.nl. I guess I'll email, and seek advice from whoever replies!

Sorry just saw the Australia bit!!!