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Thanks alfasixnut and others too as you know yerselves it's the small tricky bits that take the time.id no luck with a rear valence yet,but il carefully remove my old one and the rust can be repaired if a better one doesn't show up.its not too bad I just don't want to spend a day repairing it
I must get some sheet metal folded for the boot floor,it should be straight forward enough and I can finally get out of the boot area for now
Sometimes a lot of hours is spent looking what to do next or which way to do it and a week away from the shed usually refreshes the mind
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So I had a few days off this week and headed to the shed.trying to get rust repairs done on the rear valence.
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I used part of the old door skin to repair the top section,it had the same contour as what I needed.:thumbs:
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I bought a rear valence from the Alfa main dealer 4 yrs ago, it may be worth trying them if no luck elsewhere.

Is this any use?.

New Genuine 33 rear inner valance / crossmember - Alfasud Parts and Spares
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Then the job was to tackle the boot floor,I got some sheet steel folded and cut into shape and spot welded it.
http://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/...pse6cd5407.jpg
I cut the bottom section off the rear valence as I won't need it due to the new boot level being changed to the subaru boot height.
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Plenty of room to run an exhaust muffler across the back underneath the boot floor

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Next job will be to finish off a couple of side brackets to keep the bumper in place.and also to make maybe an x brace to support the rear strut tops
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Hi Ian,ya I tried the main dealers and they said there is no stock left and they are not obliged to carry stock beyond 10 years of something like that...so they told me.
I spotted that rear valence too,but it seems to be from a series 2 or something because it doesn't match up with anything for the s3.
I guess if a guy was really stuck it would be pretty easy for a sheet metal shop to fold the rear valence without the indentation for the number plate.not sure how it would look though.not bad I'd guess,but then number plate light would have to be moved too
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Again, nothing to add but I love this thing and your work really is top notch.

If you're ever stuck for trim/lights/mirrors etc let me know as I've some spares stashed away.
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Me also Mark, car is really coming together.
Superb build
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Thanks guys for all the support Il be back in the shed in the morning fettling up the rear bumper,with plenty of heat applied and a large tub of elbow grease to get it to fit
I'm trying to finish jobs as I go,it would be very easy to jump to the next job without finishing which would probably leave me with weeks of grinding back welds
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Grinding back welds is very boring.

It always seems a little strange to me that weld seem so much stronger than the metal around it. There is probably a really good sensible reason for that - but I have never really thought hard enough to work it out!
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So I got to the shed on Saturday and went about sorting out the mounting of the rear bumper,plenty of heat and I must of had it on and off fat least 50 times
But it fits pretty well after all,just have to do a small bit of matching up where the bumper meets the wheel arch,just to keep the contour right
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And here's the plan for the rear strut tower bracing,
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Should strengthen things up nicely after all the chopping iv done to the subaru
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Wow, that really has moved on after a weekends work.

I like the cross bracing at the rear.

Starting to make some real progress now.

I wish I had someone locally that could do a bit of work like that for me and extend my front arches out over my spaced wheels on the race car. I just about get by with a welder - but it is more like using Prittstick on metal - rather than weld. I always have the feed to fast or the amps too low - or is it the other way around. Can make some really good crows feet, or weld that just taps off with a hammer.

Keep going Mark, looks like real progress recently.
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Hi Mark,
She is really looking like a super strong shell now. Really love the attention to detail.
Coming together a treat.
Grind on.
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Grinding back welds is very boring.

It always seems a little strange to me that weld seem so much stronger than the metal around it. There is probably a really good sensible reason for that - but I have never really thought hard enough to work it out!
Hi Edward - you are quite correct, from memory (of a mech eng degree many years ago!) around a weld is a "Heat Affected Zone" where the metal has been very nearly melted and recrystalizes with larger (weaker) grain structure. Hammering that area can effectively restore some strength by work hardening.
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Got around to this the weekend,along with a bit of tidying up that won't be seen.
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All tacked in place,just need to be welded up
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Hi guys,only got to the shed a few hours over the weekend,but managed to get the brace welded up and welded in.
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Got some of my original bracing cut out,this was bracing I'd welded in from day 1 of the project.nice to see no movement once I cut true them
And its starting to resemble a car again,without bits of bars welded in everywhere!!
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I also got a set of these.
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So I can do some tastey bracing like this
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Also a quick question,if I do go down the fiberglass bumper road in the quest for the best fitment,is there any nice units out there for the s3? Not looking for anything crazy.just something close to the original that I can fettle with.i know ahm do a bumper,but maybe it's more race fitment?
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Hi, I just wanted say your project is amazing,
a sort of art homage to both alfa (the '90 years 33 body style)
and subaru (evolution of the mechanical parts) boxer cars,
and thanks for sharing photos of the work in progress,
really I like read this post
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Thanks guys for the support it's nice to get positive feedback,gives a nice moral boost to get the project finished
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Mark,

can I ask where you got the tools to push down the edges of the holes you have cut? I have looked before when I wanted to add plates to roll cages etc, but they are either prohibitively expensive or just plain difficult to find. Any tips would be good.

Also, regarding bumpers, you could try a 75 bumper. They are wider than what a 33 needs, so you could fit it and fill in the gap to close the angle along the new front wing line. See what you think. Also, it keeps it Alfa....!

This is my one - just offered up, before fitting and fiddling:

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Hi Ed, I bought the set off a crowd in the uk"dimple dies uk" just search dimple dies on ebay and youl find them.it was 185 euro for a set of seven,but even at that the were the cheapest I could find.and the quality is good.a lot of cheaper ones are made of aluminium and wouldn't last long.they will also mix and match to the sizes you need
Just give them a shout.

Thanks for the info on the bumper.is yours a 75 unit ed?also is it fiberglass?at least with fiberglass I can add or shave off what's needed. Does it line up well with the 33 arch?
And also has any one fitted a 75 rear bumper?
Thanks for your help
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Hi Mark,

Thanks for the info. Didn't even know they were called dimple dies ... now I know.

I would probably just look for one and make that do for most circumstances. Will have another look on eBay again shortly.

Yes, mine is a 75 bumper. Remember there are about 3 different styles all very similar, all fibreglass and they can / need to be modified, but not a great deal to fit.

I have a couple of spares here, just in case I demolish one on a track day.

I will pop a photo of the current one on here in a while. Will try and show the general fit etc.

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Thanks ed,
il have a look at a few 75 bumpers and see.i guess availability of aftermarket stuff for a 90's car is pretty limited.i have the original bumpers fitting pretty well and I always liked the style of the original.so il be happy to go with them if nothing else shows upeven if they are a bit stretched
But I'd still like to get a pic of your bumper when you get a chance
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Yep Mark, will probably be tomorrow now. Tis dark outside.....
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Mark,

not the best photos, but the car is waiting to go into the body shop for loads of work. Bumper has been trimmed and modified slightly at the wings, (cut along the wing line, not increased yet) to get it to this stage. My arches are going to be extended as the track on my car is going to be in the region of 50mm wider at the front. Just waiting to finish some work on the hub set up. The wing and bumper will all then be smoothed so that they look integrated.

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