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Good for you mate The Sprint original panel will solve many of your electrical problems, plus it looks nicer
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Well the 6C is off the road for the winter and I finally plucked up the courage to tackle the water pump as I have obtained a suitable replacement. So I jacked it up put it on an axle stand and took the rear wheel off and the front half liner. Next off came the rear window and the cam belt covers. Then the thermostat housing and water pipe housing. Good progress but the pump is behind the cambelt so I marked the belt and camwheels, removed the tensioner and the belt came free with the cams rotating a few degrees.
Then the pump bolts were all undone and the pump was off!! ...and there is nothing wrong with it.....
So back on it went....... and then I tried to refit the belt - but the cams keep twisting so I need a camshaft locking device or 4.
Frustrating is the polite word I believe
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You will need the special tools to lock the cams Philip !

Maybe you can borrow them from the local dealership ? Trying to get the belt on without locking the cams, is extremely hard and ....yes, frustrating...
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The 6C has gone to my local Alfa Indy garage where the old belt has been removed and a new belt (As a precaution as the cam belt must be over four years old at least) fitted - with the cam timing reset.
At least I now know the water pump is ok and so is the timing belt.......
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Phil, something interesting:

A friend has very reasently bought a Morris 8 !
It's from 1947 and it has an 8 liter side valve engine which used to work with 6Volts but the previous owner made it a 12v vehicle.
Whats very interesting about this, is that this engine does NOT have a water pump ! It only has a large radiator, and circulation of the water is done by physics ! hot water goes up, cold water goes down, fan cools down whatever is in the radiator.
This friend has been looking for an electric water pump to fit on this car, as it overheats way too easily.
He found out that there is such a pump on the Audi TT's, to circulate the water that cools the intercooler
However, he is not sure that this electric pump will stand against the higher temps of the engine's water.

I'll be doing some research to see if I can find something for him.
Maybe you could consider adding an electric one to your system as well ?
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Hi Chris
Thanks for that - I know that some drag racing cars (and others) have electric pumps to circulate the water but I have not looked at them in detail - but I may have to try that next!
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lots of racers use an electric water pump nowadays, the sud racer at BLS has such a device.
 
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Thanks Kev - I've been looking at Demon Tweaks and they list about 5 different EWPs (Electric Water Pumps) so when I get the Sprint back I will have one last attempt to see if the stock water pump can do the job and if not I'll try an EWP in the system.
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I'm sure the stock water pump is up to the job - my radiator is just as remote from the engine as yours. I've used 32mm copper pipe throughout, so there are no constrictions, and to be honest the extra pipe length actually improves the cooling!

That said, poor accessibility may tip the balance in favour of the EWP. Good luck whichever path you choose!

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Come on then Philip, time to start working on your 16v Sprint
Move the good shell into the good shed and bring out the good welder

The 6C can wait for its cooling issues
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Come on then Philip, time to start working on your 16v Sprint
Move the good shell into the good shed and bring out the good welder

The 6C can wait for its cooling issues
I went to the 6C yesterday and the cambelt is fitted and so we started it up and it sounds strong again. I've still got to get the water system re installed and I have a stripped thread in one of the thermostat bolt holes. So I have a few jobs to do to get the 6C completely back together.
I am in a bit of a quandary though - I would like to make a proper start on my 16V Sprint build up but I really ought to get the 8V Sprint resprayed, MoTd and sold, to finance the 16V project.
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but I really ought to get the 8V Sprint resprayed, MoTd and sold, to finance the 16V project.
This has to take priority then I reckon.. Can you do the paintwork yourself?
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ehhmm.... which 8v Sprint is that ?

Have I missed something or just forgot about it ?
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ehhmm.... which 8v Sprint is that ?

Have I missed something or just forgot about it ?
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The 8V Sprint is the first one I bought - off E- bay "Needs finishing - pictures to follow". Well the pictures didn't and I had the winning bid. But it was 250 miles away, so with a borrowed car and hired trailer I went to pick it up.
It had to be towed out of a barn to get it on the trailer (No rear tyres!!). Then, at a lock up, the other bits were put on it/in it. It wasn't quite "As described" but I had gone so far I couldn't return empty handed. So I then quickly got it finished and quickly resprayed it. But it was my first time using a modern water based spray and I got some reaction in places - so it needs doing properly to resell.
I have put 146 seats in it and those Speedline wheels, I intend to put the original Sprint style seats back with the Sprint alloys, so that I can use the 146 seats and Speedlines on the 16V Sprint. Then the 8V will be virtually as original.
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And here I was thinking that they got one too many for you in the "how many..." list !

why not make this one the 16v one then mate and keep the other one for spares ?
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And here I was thinking that they got one too many for you in the "how many..." list !

why not make this one the 16v one then mate and keep the other one for spares ?
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The 8V will stay as 8V and be sold so that I have funds and a bit less "How many cars do you need??"
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How did you find the water based paint to spray? I only use 2 pack! Need to have a play with this stuff!
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Hi Johnboy
The water based paint I got from my local car paint supplier and next time I will buy 2 pack! Having said that, it would seem that my problem was that I used a cloth with thinners to remove dust prior to spraying and in some areas the thinners hadn't dried - hence the mottled reaction.
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I see
You should have used a tack rag I think 2 pack is better, but it's the tree huggers are trying to ban it
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Well the 6C is back in my garage and I'm still doing a little bit of "tinkering" before cracking on with the 8V Sprint repaint. I have been a bit distracted though this year with one of my other "Toys" - which was out at Santa Pod last month.
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Is it a Midget with a Rover V8? Must be really a superfast car.

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they look like the webers carbs you used to get on cortina's & capri's phil, only 2 of them! bet it goes well
 
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Is it a Midget with a Rover V8? Must be really a superfast car.

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its a frogeye
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Correct Chris - it is a frogeye!
Correct Kev - they are DGAS Webers from 3 litre Capri's
Correct Nicolas - it is superfast! as the picture shows 0 - 99mph in 14.2seconds top speed is past the high beam light at the bottom of the speedo
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