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Hi Alfasixnut, regarding your overheating issue, does the V6 use a plastic impeller in the water pump?, If so it could have cracked, let me explain, last year whilst driving my wifey's 147 it overheated. I stopped for 20 Min's in a garage and found no water within the expansion tank, so i went to fill it up. As you would expect the water came rushing back when i unscrewed the expansion tank lid. After sitting with the car idling for 20 mins the temperature stayed steady with no issues. The impeller would turn ok on its spigot when ticking over but with giving the car any rev's over 2.5k the impeller could not cope and the temperature would rise very quickly.
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Well I've been feeling guilty about the lack of progress on the 6C so I disturbed its winter hibernation and returned it to my garage. One of the jobs to do was to get a btter fit on the rear windows so I took the frames out and prised the glass off.
I have been - very gently - trimming it with my anle grinder to get it to fit the opening better in the rear corner and along the bottom. I was just carrying it back for another trial fit and "BANG!" it has shattered completely
I have a spare glass but am now wondering whether to use Lexan or polycarbonate instead to get the correct shape?
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Plexi-glass mate its lighter and you can bend it without worrying that it will brake

Great news about working on the 6C again Philip
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Try www.plastics4performance.co.uk Paul is a decent chap, he would even put a slight curvature if it helped.
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Thanks for the Link Sprint but I've now bought an offcut from a sheet of lexan (From Webster Race Engineering) so I'll try trimming that to size.
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Further progress but I have been looking at pictures of the two "original" 6Cs and I prefer the look of the 1st one (smaller tailgate) with the rear side windows in the frame as per std Sprint.(Pictures of the two are on post #34 link)
I did mine originally on the outside of the frame (Like the Storico 6C) as I couldn't cut the bottom off the glass, but with the lexan I can cut it to suit the new bottom edge and use the original Sprint bottom seal.
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Sounds good to me Philip

I too am considering Lexan for my side windows - its available with a bronze tint (to match my new windscreen, as yet unfitted) and would allow me to fit those little aviation-style circular vents, now that I have almost completely decided not to go for A/C...

Need to do more research on effective obscuration banding and bonding techniques though - unlike you I can't use a rubber seal and I don't want to have to fix the windows with screws...

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Lauren quick translation please for us lay people
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Using glue me thinks or some sort of bonding rail!
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I am pleased that Sixnut is having a re.think on the rear end,
Musthava heritage Alfa badge.I would hate being stuck behind his current rear end,too brash.
Mentioned previously in another age,
Have a boot lock/badge assembly in VGC .if needed.
Did I miss the solution to the charging problem ?
There is a real expert available in Holland from the Alfa 164 owners register who is willing to help in mating the Sprint engine sensors with we 164 Instrument Panel .I think Sixnut ,who knows who he is, should invite him over ,He lives at the Hook of Holland so could nip over and back in a day.
Signing Off again on the Concours trail with a completely original black 37k J reg 164 Twin/spark and 3 litre 164 Automatic,as above.
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Keeping 164s on the road is one of my prime objectives in life and if one looks on the 166//164 Forum my ciontribution is obvious and quite often I have the last word.
Not that I am an expert its just I know where to get expert help .
I dispute the argument that the 6C is a Sprint
iAlfa Sixnuts 6C is more than half a 164 ,and so is a hybrid,
It did not get into production so cannot be regarded as a Sprint in the purest sense .as it was just a prototype,
Those who crticise me are on a stickey wicket
In human terms ,this is all about pride and wanting to do the job without help.Not about money.
The help Sixnut really needs is free.and readily available a few hours across the Channel,
Perhaps petrol money .could be offered .
Sixnuts experience of hit and miss and bypasses has so far not achieved much .and he is still in a right mess.
I believe it will go on and on and on until er doors says enough and she may have said that before.
I have met Sivnuts lady and hope to again .
I hope Spacenut comes down to my level of llingo ere long .
Cant wait to hear hard news of her V6 upgrade in the Green machine .
Another Sud/Sprint hybrid now officially recognised as such by event organisers.
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you may well be right on the one pressure many of us have alf, the "er indoors" one.

i seem to be escaping it at the moment so am keeping my head down, don't know how phil gets on having quite a few more distractions to contend with in his garage
 
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you may well be right on the one pressure many of us have alf, the "er indoors" one.
I know how you feel! I'm hoping the pressure will be off a little bit once we get hitched, but my dad tells me they only get worse.. :hmm:
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I know how you feel! I'm hoping the pressure will be off a little bit once we get hitched, but my dad tells me they only get worse.. :hmm:
the pressure never eases, just gets diverted only cure, DON'T GET HITCHED
 
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only cure, DON'T GET HITCHED
+1 , 37 years and counting.... but dragging that ball & chain
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the pressure never eases, just gets diverted only cure, DON'T GET HITCHED
Too late now mate - the deposit has been paid, and a Yorkshireman never pays a deposit and doesn't follow through..
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Too late now mate - the deposit has been paid, and a Yorkshireman never pays a deposit and doesn't follow through..
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We've been married 37 years! and she is very understanding, my best friend, very lovely - and I'm very lucky......so cars take a back seat at various times.
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We've been married 37 years! and she is very understanding, my best friend, very lovely - and I'm very lucky......so cars take a back seat at various times.
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Using glue me thinks or some sort of bonding rail!
Haha! Er, yes, that's what I meant.

Nova was first kit car to have bonded windscreen, so no rubber seals. Black obscuration band is printed between the laminates to conceal the bond line. I need to talk to the Minari boys about this, they use a Citroen AX windscreen with an additional band around the bottom - need to find out how they do it. One of the cars I saw at MITCAR looked like it was using black vinyl...

Sorry, babbling again.

Hi Gerry - V6 was never going to be a conversion, would have to be a complete new-build. I'm sticking with the boxer for the moment, I don't think I have got anywhere near the end of development yet; need another gearbox upgrade with shorter ratios, stop the oil leak COMPLETELY, change the driveline angle, upgrade the engine to full rip-snort specification and get a new exhaust made up to release all those pent-up horses!

By the time I've done all of that I'll be too old to think about a V6

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Thanks for your detailed update Lauren. To recap my rear window saga, I knew that the spring towers of the 164 inner wings would preclude having the lowering opening Sprint windows and that the wings themselves would need widening. I trialled the glass on the outside of the frames and realised that was possible, so built up the wings for the external flush glass look.
However the glass needed to be quite far out along the bottom edge. I also initially used black mastic sealant to stick the glass to the frame, but that failed and so I used black double sided adhesive tape, then double thickness tape to get the glass further out. The wide rubber strip was then used to fill the irregular gap along the bottom. But along the way the "look" was getting lost and hence I am now redoing it with lexan, sitting the lexan back into the frame and using the original Sprint bottom edge rubber/metal strip..... But the will mean the top part of the wing needs reprofiling to remake the shoulder for the trim to sit on.
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Phillip is this all in order to make Chris's life easier ?
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I couldnt reach the alternator even with the side glass removed, so .... no !
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