kits by themselfs are illigal that is clear, however i had a ride with a car with xenon kit and there was definitly daylight forminf infront of the car. I see lots of hid cars on the roads too and as long as the have lenses they are not blinding traffic. Our police like i said dont like those kits either and it is not cheap, however they will never stop a 166 with 4300k hid as they look they allready have xenon.
Like usaly i only belive what i see and i see it works, sorry
. 166 lights are not very effective by themself...
Im sorry AlfissimoInternational that is just my thinking. I do however understand you are an expert on the matter...but you have never seen 166 headlights preform- if you would you would agree something has to be done. I still havent had hid installed in my car becose im waiting if LED comes out strong...
LENSES Have nothing to do with it. Period. There are tons of cars with xenons from the factory which are legal and should not be compared to HID "KIT"s that the owner of a vehicle installs himself in a halogen bulb reflector.
Lots of light in front of the car means you drive over it in night when traveling fast. Not good.
I have seen a 166 headlights, please do not assume that I have not seen or been in a 166. I have, many times when in Europe. Also have customers in US with them and Mexico. All Euro Specification vehicles.
You need to choose a high quality bulb, either PIAA, OSRAM, Philips, Narva. HID kit's will not cure your problem but just make it worse.
What you need to do to make the headlamps better is make sure the seals on the lamps are good, this will reduce moisture and dust entering the lamp. I forget of the outer lens is plastic or glass but either way they need to be cleaned. If inside has moisture it eats away at the silver coating on the reflector making the light dull.
Pick a HIGH quality Bulb. It makes all the difference.
If you lamps are pitted, dirty or lens is yellowish or dirty on the inside it will make the light terrible.
Add a HID kit to it and now it is worse than you ever imagined. You just amplified the problem.
LED's won't work either. You all are looking for expensive ways to improve your lighting when all you need to do is spend more on a good bulb.
Now if the Lamp itself is not very well designed, guess what? NOTHING WILL MAKE IT BETTER!!!!
Now like I said do not compare OEM HID headlamps with those of HID kits installed on halogen headlamps. They will not produce the same effect at all. 4300K is Kelvin temp. Yellow/White light. Anything higher and you reduce the light about 15%+ 8000K you have reduced the light around 30-40%.
Halogens have been around forever. Guess what, they will be around for another 20+ years. I guarantee it.
They have gotten loads better and the new halogen bulbs are fantastic.
Try a new bulb. I think there is more to this than just crappy 166 headlamps. The 164 headlamps made by bosch and now by Auotmotive Lighting GmbH are fantastic, a 166 was just as good. The 164 headlamps just for example and I am taking about the projector unit if removed from the lamp which I have done many times, is in fact made of metal. The whole thing. Very high quality. Lens was very well made as well. A good bulb makes the difference. 166 I think is very similar but a smaller projection unit. ,ake sure they are Clean clean clean!
So I suggest no HID kit. Forget it. You are wasting your money and time, the kit will fail sooner than your halogen bulb and your just causing a mess on the road for people.
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Here is a FAQ from an automotive lighting forum:
Does Philips or Osram make HID bulbs with halogen base?
Non of the OE companies manufacturers HID bulbs with any halogen type base. This would be an illegal product to sell and use on the street. OE companies value safe products higher than making some quick money now and lawsuits later. The only base they produce is P32-d that will fit into socket of a OEM HID headlamp. As an example, any seller who claims to have a 9006 Philips HID bulb is a scam. This is confusing marketing. At the best, all the seller can offer is a 9006 rebased Philips OEM HID bulb.
Most people on the forum have bought HID kits, installed it, felt unhappy, bought OEM equipment and ended up happy. Most of us wish we hadn't wasted $$$ on HID kit in the first place.
Also from the forum:
Because HID kit is illegal to use in Halogen headlamps in North America/Europe, there simply is no recognized manufucaturer that bother to put together high quality kit. Why would a recognized manufacturer sell a product that are illegal to use? They would risk recall (pay customer back in full) and lawsuits. Since 2005, the price of getting a complete, well working OEM HID package (projector unit, hid bulb, hid ballast, wiring harness) only costs slightly more and will totally outlast any HID kit.