166 Rumbling noise O/S/F wheel area Poss inboard CV

Hi all.i'm looking for any advice anyone can give re the above.I tried a search and ended up on a problem page hence this post.

I cured the clicking sound by doing the brake pads.

However on accelerating the car is fine .On the overrun the rumling noise is there.Braking removes the rumbling as does accelerating.

I checked today the brakes are fine the outer CV joint at the wheel seems fine BUT the inner cv joint at the engine or what it is called appears worn.

Has anyone had a similar problem ?

Can anyone assist with relevant info.

Ta

P me

Consider also the bearing for the intermediate drive shaft. It's at the RH side, in the housing with the oil filter.
If it is this bearing don't buy from Alfa cos they want to sell complete shaft and bearing for £180 + VAT.
Bearing (SKF 62206-2RS1) is retained by a heat shrink collar which you can have made to my drawing. You need to cut the old collar off.

Thanks Ken .I just gave it a quick look .Will check that when I do it properly.

P me

I had similar problem, but it was at different occasion - when diveing in steep hill after some time there was some tup, tup, ... sund.

Found inner CV joint on both axles to be worn (badly). Went to (st)dealers changed my old drive shafts for new paid 480€ for both.

I will see (or better hear) the difference. I only have to tighten all up and put my Bella back on the ground.


PS
My bearing for the intermediate drive shaft seems to be OK.

Good to hear from you again Elbarto.

Ive not had a proper look yet but I feel its these inner joints.May be failing at higher mileage.

P me

Originally Posted by Pomeo

Hi all.i'm looking for any advice anyone can give re the above.I tried a search and ended up on a problem page hence this post.

I cured the clicking sound by doing the brake pads.

However on accelerating the car is fine .On the overrun the rumling noise is there.Braking removes the rumbling as does accelerating.

I checked today the brakes are fine the outer CV joint at the wheel seems fine BUT the inner cv joint at the engine or what it is called appears worn.

Has anyone had a similar problem ?

Can anyone assist with relevant info.

Ta

P me

Think I have the same problem. My first thought was a wheel bearing. What is the abbreviation for CV?

Originally Posted by klaasw

Think I have the same problem. My first thought was a wheel bearing. What is the abbreviation for CV?

Constant Velocity joint, used in drive-shafts where the input and output shaft must rotate smoothly at the same uniform speed of rotation.

Last weekend I had a better look. I do not know how I never noticed it when doing the brakes but Pomeo has just caught the OSF broken spring syndrome.....Ken I dont think its the bearing.I'm sure its the inner cv joint.Gave the gaiter a good squueze and poke about.

Drove to Kilmarnock 2 days ago and the rumbling has dissappeared.No noise yesterday either.

Perhaps just need lubrication...Hope so will monitor as it may be just as well doing it when doing the spring.

Pomeo

In the end it turned out to be the left rear wheel bearing. Started replacing brake pads and found a ruptured rubber dustcover over the universal joint behind the front left wheel. All the grease was swept out messing up the mudguard and suspension parts. I hoped this would be the cause of the rumbling noise which was not the case. Further dealer investigation ended up in replacement of the left rear wheel bearing. Now it's just the roar of the V6 that makes the joy of driving.

Originally Posted by klaasw

In the end it turned out to be the left rear wheel bearing. Started replacing brake pads and found a ruptured rubber dustcover over the universal joint behind the front left wheel. All the grease was swept out messing up the mudguard and suspension parts. I hoped this would be the cause of the rumbling noise which was not the case. Further dealer investigation ended up in replacement of the left rear wheel bearing. Now it's just the roar of the V6 that makes the joy of driving.

I'm glad you got it sorted Klaasw.
What a mess though with your gaitor and the grease everywhere.
You have had a double bill .the joint and the bearing.

I bought a joint but as problem solved for now I'll keep it as a spare.

P me

Well you cant say I'm not fast.Had a scheduling problem re fiting Spring from Westerns openning night as I don't have a handy wee brother like FF I have to ask my mechanic when he can fit me in.I never talk to myself so like Mitch 166 with MOT on 20th I had to make hay while the sun shone.....And it did today(Hope you got things done too Niall).
Well like the brakes Pomeo dead easy Lacey BIG problem still to resolve.

Lacey spring a big fight getting new spring on but in and out of car NO ProblemO..BUT Pomeo what a ficht getting the bolts out of top end of fork.THANKS PURPLE FOR REMINDING ME HAD TO HEAT IT A WEE BITTY

Well No fight with spring .It went on a dawdle.

a couple of pics as I think someone else was considering doing it.

For some reason I cannae get pics to upload.....Will follow when /if I can do it.

Pomeo

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Lacey's spring Auto Note warpaint....Just like a resistor?

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Could'nt resist lovely snowdrops Spring has Sprung...Argh!



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Spring has cracked

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And finally

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Playing leapfrog with spring compressors
BIG HYDRAULIC ONE NOT AVAILABEL....But where there is a will ,there's a way .
NB I prefer the action of my old grey ones compared with the black modern ones/

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Note different warpaint on manual spring.
Wonder if they are different.


Hope this helps someone.


Pomeo

Gosh senile dementia is catching up fast.As I recalled the problems with the above springs but I forgot I had to heat Pomeos upper bolt thro the fork.
Must be getting blaise (or whatever it is) as I forgot one of my first rules which is

"Expect the unexpected."

I had expected serious problems getting the bolts out before but other than one minor stuborn one they all basically fell out.

As I was sure they came out easy.
I set aside an hours to change the nearside spring as with my previous experience it should have been a dawdle...Should have read this first.
All went acording to plan and was going to composite a series of photos showing step by step.
BUT the two bolts though the bottom fork just wouldn't come out.

I started about 0930 and by 1230 I had just managed to get the top bolt out as above with heat brute force and ignorance.(Malkying it with a hammer).


What would Chris Tarrant do....So I phoned a friend.Collected him and a hydraulic press (10 ton and 40 ton force adaptors) and even with that the bottom bolt just wouldn'y budge.This is the one which goes throught the bottom ball joint arm and they have always came out easy in the past.Well this one appears seized metal to metal in the rubber part of the bush. So I dont think heating would help .

I then recalled that some wise person had coated Laceys bolts with copper grease. I think I will do this to Pomeos..(Both sides) .

So my 1 hour job has taken all day and I am no further forward...Considering now cutting though the bolt at the inner sides of the bottom fork and replacing bolt and bottom arm.

Anyone else had this problem.


I thought that only Alfa did the springs but chic got me a

Lesjofors Part No 4000711

and it doesnt come with the plastic bit where the spring rots.Time will tell if this is better.


The spring saga continues...Now I know why I only replaced the broken one last time

Pomeo