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07-02-2010
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Over Heat........eeeek!!!
Driving down the A46 following the Carrerra or something when my temp went really hight, well right to the very top with the red light on, i soon slowed right down and slammed into some ones driveway within seconds................The can soon cooled very quickly so the fan must be working, waited till it hit 90deg and set off again, so i decided to boot it a little to see if the temp would right................oh crap, it did, very fast. I dipped the clutch and let it coast which cooled the car back to normal.......................what the hell could be wrong with it now..............the rad is new, car is garaged so cant see it being broken...............I did look at the water and it was on min. Will need to look when the cars cooled down tomorrow morning..............I Have no idea, i know there are a few topics on this, but nothing similar to this. The 3.0 does have a metal water pump thing doesn't it? simply had a lovely drive on the way back tho, the konis worked like a dream, the car drove smooth as a pie, just need to get the tracking done again, has a very very small pull to the right............so this has pissed me off...........oh well!
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07-02-2010
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Might be the water pump, just read a lot of threads on this..............but 3.0 Water Pump change?..............Has anyone done this?
Also H/Gasket.........dont think so, the car runs fine, pulls well, would their be any other things I should be looking out for?
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07-02-2010
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I had similar - one off, was fine next day, water a little low, I put it down to an airlock. I posted about it here. No re-occurance.
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08-02-2010
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Yeh I remember your Stek, im going to fill her up tonight and see if it was a one off, oterwise its gonna set me back 650 quid.................OUCH!
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08-02-2010
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topped her up with water................took it for an blast, seems fine........................BUT water got lost somehow, now granted ive not checked the water in a few weeks an ive been to london a few time and leicester...............how long would it take for a small cracked water pump to lose water?
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08-02-2010
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if the temp went all the way 2 the\top and the light came then its more likely your head gasket has gone,same ting happened to me,and u can check if ya waterpump works by checking if u can see water entering the watertank from the pipe at the top ( small pipe)
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08-02-2010
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What other signs should I look out for? I'm sure the head gasket is fine, took it for a spin and no issues, I really hope it's what stek had, just low water issue. But could do with more info on the water pump and what rate it could use water. E.g if a crack could cause the water to leak 1/2 the tank in 100 miles, I can drive it and see what losses I get and make my own guess to what the issue is. just hope I don't lose any water and it was just me not looking properly
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mine was like that no loss of power for 2weeks or so but then oil and water mixed and the car was dead... 3.0 166 have metal water pumps so i doubt its got a crack,have u checked your thermostat and your radiator
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Have you been driving though alot of fires recently?
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08-02-2010
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nah, he's keeping well clear of you and your cars stu
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I remember reading a post a while back re 3.0l cars and the metal impellor water pump and I'm sure the advice was that the 3.0l got plastic ones too. If you don't know the integrity of yours then perhaps you should have it checked out. If that is the problem then it usually manifests itself at high revs when the impellor starts to slip on the shaft.
Losing that much water is a worry though - have you checked all your pipes & clips for leaks? Also, if it was the headgasket I think you'd notice sludge in your oil by now. You could always get a 'sniff' test done first to rule the gasket failure out and then take it from there.
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Def no leaks, would the cracked plasic impellor lose a tank of water or more?...................I think id best get the H/G checked out
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going in for a sniff test tomorrow...................did a quick check just now, opened the coolant car and there was a lot of pressure.
Before I went for an 8mile run, temp didn't miss a beat and car felt great to drive..............I really hope its the water pump, I was gonna do the belts next year any way so ill write the cost off that way,...........If its H/G im gonna buy a Fiesta Zetec S and RIP for the Alfa..............such a shame, I love it to bits................but im not gonna cry over split beans...............life goes on!
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Originally Posted by a17esh
going in for a sniff test tomorrow...................did a quick check just now, opened the coolant car and there was a lot of pressure.
Before I went for an 8mile run, temp didn't miss a beat and car felt great to drive..............I really hope its the water pump, I was gonna do the belts next year any way so ill write the cost off that way,...........If its H/G im gonna buy a Fiesta Zetec S and RIP for the Alfa..............such a shame, I love it to bits................but im not gonna cry over split beans...............life goes on!
So you can stop trying to but a G3 for the time being then
(Hope the car's ok thought fella. (£650 for belts and WP, where are you going, I keep being being quoted silly prices!)
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no way do i want a g3.....................if you have a G3 you can stick it up yr ***...............lol.............Im gonna prepare for the worst, ive seen a nice Zetec S for sale...........means I wont be in alfa for a good couple of years! Ill miss it, a lot!...............But wont miss the costs thats for sure!!! Zetec S with pioneer nav, DAB, DVD, Phone, TV etc.....best sound system etc.....will do me for now!
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Zetec S?!?! Pull yourself together man
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08-02-2010
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Can I have your G2  and your wheels - stop must be getting giddy as mines sorned at the moment so not having any fun, sorry!
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Originally Posted by stuart lee
Zetec S?!?! Pull yourself together man 
I love em, there great to drive, bomb proof, and just work lol...............Its no alfa, but its fun t drive! Ive decided, if its water pump etc....ill get it done, h/g and ill just leave the car to rot, i cant break it and no willing to sell it less then 3k as it is...........no ones gonna pay that so id rather just keep it in the hope to sort out one day!...................and engine will come up, with a g3.............mark my words lol!
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deep down im gonna be gutted................but money to be saved hehe for the GTA
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Can't believe you're falling out of love with your (very almost) perfect 166 so easily.
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The only V6 24v that came from the factory with a metal water pump impeller was the GTV/Spider; even the GTA's have a plastic one.
The "crack" people refer to is in the impeller itself, not the external water pump housing.
I would get a headgasket (Sniffer) test done first, as you don't want to change the pump and belts, only to find the gaskets are knackered.
Also, have you checked your radiator for leaks?
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Originally Posted by FoxtrotOscar
The only V6 24v that came from the factory with a metal water pump impeller was the GTV/Spider; even the GTA's have a plastic one.
The "crack" people refer to is in the impeller itself, not the external water pump housing.
I would get a headgasket (Sniffer) test done first, as you don't want to change the pump and belts, only to find the gaskets are knackered.
Also, have you checked your radiator for leaks?
As Foxtrot OSCAR says to Foxtrot *****.  
There are certain individuals on this planet I woodnae take free air aff off. 
BUT if it is the heads what are your window switches like and the NSF window regulator

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Fur France's sake its the phonetic alfiebett no the blooming motor
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Huh,!I dunneee get yeas
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SNNNNNNNNNNNNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF TTTTTTTTTTTEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS TTTTTTTTTT PPPPPPPPPPPPAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSE EEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDD...................c an ya smell the joy!!!!
For Pomeo.............Aye, niff pest last............  - im learnng the lingo............init!!
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